Is being a chav genetic or social?

[Screenbeat]

Popping to the local shops for essentials around my way is always interesting. I have to interact with the locals and quite honestly I would describe most of them as scumbags, jobless, stupid, junkies, pissheads. Just general *** if you're going to swear, fully star it out in future, not just some of the letters ***

Are people this way from their genes, or does your environment make you who you are?

Apologies.

 

[BongoHunter]

It's how your raised

 

[Orionaut]

The last couple of generations have been the product of an environment where there has been a strong selective pressure against being smart! :/

 

[Screenbeat]

Yes, but there must come a point in peoples lives where they stop and think.... I'm a tool, this needs sorting!

 

[Maccapacca]

Popping to the local shops for essentials around my way is always interesting. I have to interact with the locals and quite honestly I would describe most of them as scumbags, jobless, stupid, junkies, pissheads. Just general *********.

Are people this way from their genes, or does your environment make you who you are?

If everyone is the same you just don’t realise your one of them.

 

[Screenbeat]

If everyone is the same you just don’t realise your one of them.

That could be true if living 100 years ago! But these days you can see the bigger picture

 

[StriderX]

No attempt to improve the lives of others will lead to a sudden utopia.

 

[Raelthorne]

It's the environment and upbringing. As far as I remember there were two documentaries about it recently, focused on a young lad called Eggsy I think? Anyway, he turned out alright in the end

 

[bazzabear]

Yes, but there must come a point in peoples lives where they stop and think.... I'm a tool, this needs sorting!

This an interesting one. I sometimes think about how often films have a level of moral message. How do you watch and enjoy a film whose central message is the importance of doing good by your fellow man, and then go out and rob someone's house or vandalise a car or something the next day?

 

[Screenbeat]

It's the environment and upbringing. As far as I remember there were two documentaries about it recently, focused on a young lad called Eggsy I think? Anyway, he turned out alright in the end

I saw that!!! He saved the world! Chavs can turn around

 

[FloppyPoppy]

Nurture not nature.

 

[Screenbeat]

Nurture not nature.

There is so much bad nurture!

 

[stockhausen]

Popping to the local shops for essentials around my way is always interesting. I have to interact with the locals and quite honestly I would describe most of them as scumbags, jobless, stupid, junkies, pissheads. Just general . . .

Perhaps if you spent less time "interacting" with your buddies this wouldn't be a problem

 

[TNGL]

It's quite obviously social.

 

[Diddums]

Yes, but there must come a point in peoples lives where they stop and think.... I'm a tool, this needs sorting!

Dunning Kruger effect.

 

[Hedge]

Interact with them how?

Are they aggressive to you or do they just not match your class?

 

[Gray2233]

It's mostly a social/culture issue, although I believe there are those more disposed to addiction on a genetic level.

Obviously that functions outside of class, as lets face it there aren't a lot of people most would consider middle or upper class chav's. They generally give them different names, like Diane Abbot's son for example.

 

[Nasher]

I thought chav was out and being a Greta supporting hipster was now in?

 

[DereksDontRun]

A Scottish mate calls them Neds (for Non Educated Delinquents) - personally find that more fitting than just "Chav."

It's predominantly nurture, through family and piers (potentially orchestrated by their environment). I'm unsure how to phrase anything without sounding like a judgemental prat myself. If you have someone that doesn't want to work, potentially smokes weed and/or drinks all day and live off hand-outs (or potentially deals, robs, etc) - chances are they probably live in council accommodation. Now, group lots of similar people together and then add children into the mix - how on earth are the majority of those children meant to know/aspire to anything different?!?

 

[bagleyboy]

Living in a chavy area, it's the upbringing. Parents not giving any care or attention.