No evidence of violence either.
Man tasered in front of his kid at petrol station
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No evidence of violence either.
Caporegime
Well post your screenshot with proof then.
Don't need to, it is on the twitter video. I suggest you go to specsavers if you can't see it. They're shut at the moment cos of covid19.
Caporegime
You've made a claim, back it up. Come on. Be a man! Prove it's in the video!
So...where exactly does he push him? Seeing as you know...in both of those his hand is clearly on the front of the forearm.
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Soldato
It always does for some people.
Caporegime
THEN POST THE IMAGE YOU CLAIMED EXIST SHOWING THAT HE WAS PUSHED.
I've posted 2 images showing the officers hands in front of him...he lunged. Simple.
You should've gone to Specsavers. Oh...
Caporegime
I've provided visual evidence. You've repeatedly been asked to provide some and haven't.
Actually, no. He just posted two selective images. Reviewing the video, there was a number of actions within the two seconds.
Caporegime
THEN POST THEM!
It's really not that simple at all. The videos don't show the entire incident either and even if they did, there's still plenty of information missing.
Should tasers only be used to stop an immediate threat? Or is apprehension of a resisting suspect, without immediate danger, an acceptable use of the taser?
Would they have been better to wait for more man power and better negotiation to prevent any further distress to the child?
Would they have been better to wait for more man power and better negotiation to prevent any further distress to the child?
Soldato
should have just shot him. Problem solved.
Depends on the situation, which as said isn't shown in full in the clips. The fact the Taser was already in-hand before filming started suggests an escalation up to that point, as opposed to being drawn and immediately used.
There didn't seem to be anything to negotiate, at that point he was resisting arrest and so force was used to gain compliance. What's the realistic alternative? They can't grapple around with a guy that size for 5-25 minutes while waiting for additional resources.
Any distress to the child was caused by the father putting himself and his kid in that situation. Anyone with that list of charges isn't a first-time offender either so perhaps with Dad in prison and some intervention from SS the kid might have half a chance now.
Don't make assumptions about the police but freely make assumptions about the individual? That's just basic bias so little point discussing further but I would like to ask...
...could you clarify?
One is being charged with a catalogue of offences, the other two are trying to prevent him, his kid and other road users from being obliterated by a drunk, speeding, uninsured driver whilst not be physically assaulted themselves. Yes, there is some bias involved there unsurprisingly.
Taser isn't considered a "last resort" as some suggest or only for use when faced with an immediate imminent threat. But that equally doesn't mean there wasn't a threat, perceived or otherwise, given the video doesn't show how that incident escalated, doesn't capture much in the way of verbals and doesn't give any other information that those officers may have had about him at the time.