Gigabyte Z390 UD still future proof enough?

aaronjunited · 12 May 2020 at 13:56

I have been told this is the best budget motherboard for gaming at the moment. Is there any recommendations other than that? Anyone's brains spill for me on this? I'm starting my build and getting each part starting with the motherboard. So my motherboard budget is around £100 and if I can get value for money I will take it.

Emlyn_Dewar · 13 May 2020 at 08:45

If you're just starting your build, Z390 would be a pretty poor choice. I say that as someone with a Z390 motherboard.

Value for money, go AMD.

orbitalwalsh · 13 May 2020 at 22:30

Emlyn_Dewar said:
If you're just starting your build, Z390 would be a pretty poor choice. I say that as someone with a Z390 motherboard.
Value for money, go AMD.

Not really. B450 can't handle Zen3 . B550 or x570 .

Basically AMD have rolled out an intel .

aaronjunited said:
I have been told this is the best budget motherboard for gaming at the moment. Is there any recommendations other than that? Anyone's brains spill for me on this? I'm starting my build and getting each part starting with the motherboard. So my motherboard budget is around £100 and if I can get value for money I will take it.

Only problem is you've got z490 which entry Gigabyte is £150 and 10th gen intel is slightly more then current 9th Gen .

Emlyn_Dewar · 14 May 2020 at 05:42

Value seems the biggest concern, in which case get an AMD setup and later down the line put in the best 3000 CPU you can get used.
The Z390 suggestion online seems pretty awful to me, as there isn't a great value chip on that platform, imo.
Z490 is not a great value preposition either.

orbitalwalsh · 14 May 2020 at 09:46

Emlyn_Dewar said:
Value seems the biggest concern, in which case get an AMD setup and later down the line put in the best 3000 CPU you can get used.
The Z390 suggestion online seems pretty awful to me, as there isn't a great value chip on that platform, imo.
Z490 is not a great value preposition either.

None of them are. B450 is one of the worst now, prices have been pushing up by £40 from launch due to high demand and now they can't take Zen3 CPUs. X570 boards are costly .

B550 will outsell everything

Emlyn_Dewar · 14 May 2020 at 11:32

If you had to buy right now though, the AMD motherboard and CPU combo is better value.
Z390 is absolutely not the platform to be buying into.

CageyH · 14 May 2020 at 11:53

I just bought an i7-9700k and Z390 board.
The reason being my old one went belly up. The only reason I stayed Intel was due to my CPU water cooling block.
Changing that to AMD negated any savings.

As I build my PC and use it for about 5 years, I see no real issue. The Z490 boards are too pricey at the moment.

aaronjunited · 14 May 2020 at 13:38

Thanks guys for the input. I have decided to go with an x570 board as I can futureproof for the 4000 Ryzen series. At the moment I am not interested in the new intel nor the new ryzen cpus. I will stick with the Ryzen 5 3600 for a good few years yet. I am getting most bang for buck going the x570 route as the b450 and x470 aren't supporting new cpus for the future.

orbitalwalsh · 14 May 2020 at 15:03

CageyH said:
I just bought an i7-9700k and Z390 board.
The reason being my old one went belly up. The only reason I stayed Intel was due to my CPU water cooling block.
Changing that to AMD negated any savings.

As I build my PC and use it for about 5 years, I see no real issue. The Z490 boards are too pricey at the moment.

9700k is still going to last a while ! Need extra performance you just gaming at higher Resolution

orbitalwalsh · 14 May 2020 at 15:13

aaronjunited said:
Thanks guys for the input. I have decided to go with an x570 board as I can futureproof for the 4000 Ryzen series. At the moment I am not interested in the new intel nor the new ryzen cpus. I will stick with the Ryzen 5 3600 for a good few years yet. I am getting most bang for buck going the x570 route as the b450 and x470 aren't supporting new cpus for the future.

Just don't go to cheap with x570, as flagship b550 out match most mid range x570 .

aaronjunited · 14 May 2020 at 16:01

orbitalwalsh said:
Just don't go to cheap with x570, as flagship b550 out match most mid range x570 .

Was going to go with one of the msi or gigabyte x570 boards. they sit around the £150 - £200 range. Do you recommend any or should I wait and get a B550? Won't the 550 be more expensive being the newer boards?

orbitalwalsh · 14 May 2020 at 21:47

aaronjunited said:
Was going to go with one of the msi or gigabyte x570 boards. they sit around the £150 - £200 range. Do you recommend any or should I wait and get a B550? Won't the 550 be more expensive being the newer boards?

So far only know of the Master details . Aorus b550 and z490 designed in random pretty much.
Z490 from gaming X to Ultra are using straight power phases and no doublers at 55amps, Master/Xtreme are using 90amps do do have doublers .

B550 follows suit and uses 14 phases straight with no doublers, at 50-60amps .. only x570 boards that follow suit are the Mastee and Xtreme but they are 70amp units, master being 12*70 and Xtreme being 14*70.

B550 will have price cut due to less PCB layers and PCIe 4.0 wiring .

Power rating wise ;
X570 Xtreme
X570 Master
B550 Master
X570 Ultra/pro
B550 ultra

Price wise

X570 master
X570 ultra
X570 Pro
B550 master

aaronjunited · 14 May 2020 at 23:59

How about between these two?

MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS

GIGABYTE X570 GAMING X

orbitalwalsh · 15 May 2020 at 06:27

aaronjunited said:
How about between these two?

MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS

GIGABYTE X570 GAMING X

Gaming x

aaronjunited · 15 May 2020 at 12:22

orbitalwalsh said:
Gaming x

Thanks. Have you polished up your knowledge on it's VRMs? Like for instance I won't be looking to take overclocking to the full limit. Id be happy with a small overclock on my cpu. So this board will be ok for that?

orbitalwalsh · 15 May 2020 at 15:05

aaronjunited said:
Thanks. Have you polished up your knowledge on it's VRMs? Like for instance I won't be looking to take overclocking to the full limit. Id be happy with a small overclock on my cpu. So this board will be ok for that?

10x 50amps if I recall. 5 doublers .

Runs fine with 3900x 12 cores at 4.3ghz manually of

https://bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/motherboards/gigabyte-x570-gaming-x-review/2/

https://youtu.be/xbyWKufthS4

Again you can see how 14 phase b550 master is going to eat into x570 sales !

aaronjunited · 15 May 2020 at 15:19

orbitalwalsh said:
10x 50amps if I recall. 5 doublers .

Runs fine with 3900x 12 cores at 4.3ghz manually of

https://bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/motherboards/gigabyte-x570-gaming-x-review/2/

https://youtu.be/xbyWKufthS4

Again you can see how 14 phase b550 master is going to eat into x570 sales !

Yea starting to see that the X570 is just another cash grab board!

Thanks for this! Still back and forth on whether to just stick with B450 for another 3 years at least. Because I am starting to realise I just won't need the pcie 4 for any games until at least 3 years. Also since im not looking to go with top end GPU's and sticking with 1660 super then I won't need any pcie 4.

EsaT · 15 May 2020 at 16:15

aaronjunited said:
Thanks. Have you polished up your knowledge on it's VRMs? Like for instance I won't be looking to take overclocking to the full limit. Id be happy with a small overclock on my cpu. So this board will be ok for that?

Not that good in X570 scale, but better than MSI's B450 copypasta VRMs in half of MSI's available X570 range:
https://nl.hardware.info/artikel/94...den-review-op-de-proef-met-een-3900x-vrm-test

Aorus Elite is the one where VRM jumps to modern design and overkill strength.

orbitalwalsh · 15 May 2020 at 19:40

aaronjunited said:
Yea starting to see that the X570 is just another cash grab board!

Thanks for this! Still back and forth on whether to just stick with B450 for another 3 years at least. Because I am starting to realise I just won't need the pcie 4 for any games until at least 3 years. Also since im not looking to go with top end GPU's and sticking with 1660 super then I won't need any pcie 4.

Would just wait for b550 if you could.

aaronjunited · 16 May 2020 at 14:12

orbitalwalsh said:
Would just wait for b550 if you could.

Going to do just that. Waiting for the ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING
Hoping it's in the low £100 price range.