Intel CPU confusion

ells_924 · 22 May 2020 at 19:27

HI all,

im looking at building a new rig but going down the intel path...

its likely to be 60/40 gaming vs work, office bashing and what not not streaming.

iv been looking at the

Itel Core i9-10900X 3.7GHz Deca core Processor with 10 Cores, 20 Threads, 19.25 MB Cache, 165W TDP, 4.5GHz Turbo,

Or the

intel® Core™ i9-9900KF up to 5.00GHz Octa Core Unlocked Processor

any advise is welcome on this but im stuck as its been a while sice iv built a rig

thanks

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FreeStream · 22 May 2020 at 19:32

Budget? What GPU? Does your work involve anything CPU intensive?

I'd very much go AMD unless your budget is infinite....

ells_924 · 22 May 2020 at 19:37

looking for 850-900 for cpu and board
im looking at a 2070 SUPER
noting other than spreadsheet bashing and data crunching

ells_924 · 22 May 2020 at 19:38

what amd versions would you look at ?

FreeStream · 22 May 2020 at 19:45

Does your spreadsheets/data crunching software make heavy use of multiple threads?

If so - 3950X.

Otherwise the pure single thread performance of the 10900K (LGA1200) is probably better...

ells_924 · 22 May 2020 at 19:48

no id of thought that the games would test the system more as its basic office stuff

opethdisciple · 22 May 2020 at 19:58

Pointing the OP towards the 3950x....

Anything from a 3600x up to a 3900x will be great for the OP on the AMD side.

Note that in the next 6 months or less we will be getting the 4000 series.

But at least the current AMD boards support the 4000 series. I advise the OP if he did go AMD to get an X570 board just to be safe.

The intel chips the OP has listed are both fine and super fast. But the 10series runs hot and I believe is a dead end socket again as is the 9900k.

CuriousTomCat · 22 May 2020 at 20:01

ells_924 said:
what amd versions would you look at ?

Considering your budget for a CPU appears to be £539.99 then the AMD Ryzen 9 3900X would make sense since it's the closest AMD processor to that budget. Although it wont really make your games run much faster than a Ryzen 5 3600 so there's no need to spend that much.

ells_924 · 22 May 2020 at 20:08

So the Intel ones are not a good option then?

Kirby Wurm · 22 May 2020 at 20:09

If you're dead set on Intel surely the 10900K (not X) is the way to go?

Panos · 22 May 2020 at 20:10

ells_924 said:
So the Intel ones are not a good option then?

Well, you need a 360mm AIO to add to your budget. On the 3800X/3900X you can get away with an air cooler or even the stock cooler coming with them.

You also need to calulate the diminishing returns. Given what you want to do with it, I would be going for the 3800X (£330) and a X570 or B550 board. Has the best single core perf and great multi core.
That will keep your budget pretty low also, saying that a 3900X can be had at £432 is a bargain these days.

ells_924 · 22 May 2020 at 20:15

Not dead set on Intel, just was looking athe above ones.
If the and ones are good for gaming then il look up the ones above

Kirby Wurm · 22 May 2020 at 20:23

Ah ok, AMD are a great option if outright gaming performance isn't of utmost importance, currently they offer better overall production performance than their Intel counterparts while offering 90% of the gaming performance (in most cases with newer games you'd be limited by the GPU so they'd offer virtually indistinguishable speed unless you're benchmarking or playing at high refresh with lower graphics settings).

FreeStream · 22 May 2020 at 20:39

ells_924 said:
no id of thought that the games would test the system more as its basic office stuff

In that case really up to you.

10th Gen Intel would provide the "best" (Best being a few single digit % better) gaming/single threaded performance whilst using a lot more power and hence require better coolers/make more noise.

AMD would provide the best performance/price ratio.

I'd go AMD personally, 3800X. Silence + performance + saving a few £ which you can use towards the GPU.

Can upgrade to the 4XXX series when released, which will offer another performance boost.

LeMson · 22 May 2020 at 21:08

Do you pay for the electricity bill OP?

CuriousTomCat · 22 May 2020 at 21:08

ells_924 said:
So the Intel ones are not a good option then?

That's not what we're saying. The i9-10900X is an awesome CPU. However, it costs £100 more than the Ryzen 9 3900X which is an even better CPU. Two extra cores and lower power consumption for £100 less.

If you see the i9-10900X on special offer for £389.99 then get it because like I said, it's an awesome CPU but it's not worth a penny more than £389.99 when you compare it to AMD's astonishing product stack. It sits very nicely between the 3800X and 3900X.

LeMson · 22 May 2020 at 21:14

CuriousTomCat said:
That's not what we're saying. The i9-10900X is an awesome CPU. However, it costs £100 more than the Ryzen 9 3900X which is an even better CPU.

Don't forget the cooler cost should be £200+ as potentially need a 360 aio

CuriousTomCat · 22 May 2020 at 21:22

LeMson said:
Don't forget the cooler cost should be £200+ as potentially need a 360 aio

That's a very good point.

sideways14a · 22 May 2020 at 21:23

The 3900x is a proper big boy cpu, 12 cores...goes like the clappers and doesn't use a major amount of power or heat up too much.
The 3950 is even more bad ass, in fact its so bad ass it took most of intel HEDT cpus to the slaughterhouse and its only a normal desktop AM4 cpu - Threadripper did the rest and killed off the rest of intels HEDT parts.

Unless you need an Intel CPU for a specific task then i wouldnt be touching them for a generation or two at the moment.

LeMson · 22 May 2020 at 21:43

ells_924 said:
wow lots of good information here, i think im going AMD with the 3900x, now just looking a boards!!!

best to remove items that arent from ocuk

have a look at https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asro...4-x570-chipset-atx-motherboard-mb-16r-ak.html

if you can wait a bit, https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...-am4-ddr4-x570-atx-motherboard-mb-351-ms.html will be great