Greyhound (2020) - Tom Hanks WW2 movie

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Jeremy Clarkson has made some great war time documentaries. The Artic Convoy PQ17, the raid on the Tirpitz. Wish Clarkson did more as they are awesome.

When seeing the trailer, it does look a little Hollywoodised. Yet to see and definitely looking forward to watching. Das Boot is such a high (lone) benchmark, it does not go overboard with the dramatics. I hope that this film follows suit.

Don't get me wrong, Tom Hank's is awesome for recognising the fallen and campaigning for vets, this film is brilliant that it highlights the bravery of sailers who risked life and limb and some of the most under recognised heroes of war (ala Clarkson).
 
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Jeremy Clarkson has made some great war time documentaries. The Artic Convoy PQ17

Clarkson spent half of the program skating around the idea that the captain of the close escort, Jack Broome, was to blame. The last person who made that accusation was David Irving. It cost him a lot of money as Broome was still alive at the point. Broome is now long dead, but Clarkson seemed to want to be in the company of Irving. It has been known since soon after the fiasco that the First sea Lord Dudley Pound was to blame, and that the close escort had no choice but to obey. What I seem to remember Clarkson does not mention is that the close escort believed that they were about to be attacked by the Tirpitz and were gearing up for that. They would have been massacred if this were so. As a documentary it was OK, but only passing accurate.
 
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Clarkson spent half of the program skating around the idea that the captain of the close escort, Jack Broome, was to blame. The last person who made that accusation was David Irving. It cost him a lot of money as Broome was still alive at the point. Broome is now long dead, but Clarkson seemed to want to be in the company of Irving. It has been known since soon after the fiasco that the First sea Lord Dudley Pound was to blame, and that the close escort had no choice but to obey. What I seem to remember Clarkson does not mention is that the close escort believed that they were about to be attacked by the Tirpitz and were gearing up for that. They would have been massacred if this were so. As a documentary it was OK, but only passing accurate.

Very insightful, thank you - I never knew this.

I herald presenters such as Clarkson, Holland etc, covering these forgotten battles, but I do agree, if they are factually incorrect, not great.

I view these documentaries to learn about the people who fought, less so about the blame game as terrible mistakes were made.
 
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Clarkson's documentary about his ex-wife's Father, Robert Henry Cain, is another you should watch. The man had balls the size of watermelons.

War Office, 2nd November, 1944.

The KING has been graciously pleased to approve awards of the VICTORIA CROSS to: —

Captain (temporary Major) Robert Henry Cain (129484), The Royal Northumberland Fusiliers, (attd. The South Staffordshire Regiment) (I Airborne Division) (Salcombe, Devon).

In Holland on 19th September, 1944, Major Cain was commanding a rifle company of the South Staffordshire Regiment during the Battle of Arnhem when his company was cut off from the rest of the battalion and during the next six days was closely engaged with enemy tanks, self-propelled guns and infantry. The Germans made repeated attempts to break into the company position by infiltration and had they succeeded in doing so the whole situation of the Airborne Troops would have been jeopardised.

Major Cain, by his outstanding devotion to duty and remarkable powers of leadership, was to a large extent personally responsible for saving a vital sector from falling into the hands of the enemy.

On 20th September a Tiger tank approached the area held by his company and Major Cain went out alone to deal with it armed with a Piat. Taking up a position he held his fire until the tank was only 20 yards away when he opened up. The tank immediately halted and turned its guns on him, shooting away a corner of the house near where this officer was lying. Although wounded by machine gun bullets and falling masonry, Major Cain continued firing until he had scored several direct hits, immobilised the tank and supervised the bringing up of a 75 mm. howitzer which completely destroyed it. Only then would he consent to have his wounds dressed.

In the next morning this officer drove off three more tanks by the fearless use of his Piat, on each occasion leaving cover and taking up position in open ground with complete disregard for his personal safety.

During the following days, Major Cain was everywhere where danger threatened, moving amongst his men and encouraging them by his fearless example to hold out. He refused rest and medical attention in spite of the fact that his hearing had been seriously impaired because of a perforated eardrum and he was suffering from multiple wounds.

On 25 September the enemy made a concerted attack on Major Cain's position, using self-propelled guns, flame throwers and infantry. By this time the last Piat had been put out of action and Major Cain was armed with only a light 2" mortar. However, by a skilful use of this weapon and his daring leadership of the few men still under his command, he completely demoralized the enemy who, after an engagement lasting more than three hours, withdrew in disorder.

Throughout the whole course of the Battle of Arnhem, Major Cain showed superb gallantry. His powers of endurance and leadership were the admiration of all his fellow officers and stories of his valour were being constantly exchanged amongst the troops. His coolness and courage under incessant fire could not be surpassed.
 
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Look forward to it’s release on other services.

Just digressing my paternal grandad served on the convoys that provided lend lease to the Soviet’s. Always remember his story of one such crossing when his best friend was killed when he lost a limb due to a Stuka attack as they neared port. He told me just before he passed, and had never mentioned it to anyone. It had quite an effect on him from all accounts. He always told me never to join the navy and I wondered why as a boy. What we also found out recently was that he served in every theatre and ended up minelaying in the Pacific when the war ended. RIP grandad..
 
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Anybody an idea when this will be released on something other than Apple TV as I really can't be bothered to sign up for something else?
 
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Not as entertaining as I'd hope but not a bad film.

I have to say they overdid it with that bloody wailing noise, I can appreciate it was suppose to add to the tension but it started to get on my thrupney bits.
 
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I have to say they overdid it with that bloody wailing noise, I can appreciate it was suppose to add to the tension but it started to get on my thrupney bits.


That did get a bit annoying, it was almost like a "Ghostly" kind of sound they kept repeating.

The part with the Grey Wolf sub taunting the Greyhound over the radio was utter bs, no records of that ever occurring during the war. Though surprisingly some of the close encounters in terms of ships being that close to one another did actually happen.
 
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Not as entertaining as I'd hope but not a bad film.

I have to say they overdid it with that bloody wailing noise, I can appreciate it was suppose to add to the tension but it started to get on my thrupney bits.
wasnt it supposed to be wolf pack howling but it sounded weird maybe it was supposed to be due to the quality of the microphones and radios or something :S
it was almost bordering on those vietnam wandering ghosts sound
I didn't really like the accents either they didn't really sound German, they sounded almost Russian?

I think if they left out the taunting it would have been a better movie.
btw theres a pretty fun pc game where you control a uboat "faster than light" style that's actually got pretty deep and realistic mechanics
 
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wasnt it supposed to be wolf pack howling but it sounded weird maybe it was supposed to be due to the quality of the microphones and radios or something :S

Nah they did the howl over the radio which just sounded stupid. Was an odd movie as you never see inside the u boats or any Germans in general (besides one scene), would have found it more interesting if perspectives switched to the U boat crew now and again.
 
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