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Try Final Fantasy 15 if you have it. When I played it over a year ago on my Titan XP it used 11.5GB VRAM. Now what will next gen exclusive games like Resident Evil 8 coming out next year need?
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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards
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Do they need to though? Seems to me they've changed their business model and have gone from high volume stack 'em high, sell 'em (not so) cheap to low volume, high prestige products like as you say Apple after having disposed of the competition. Because they know people will buy them regardless, albeit in lower numbers. With the presumably high margins and lowered production and material costs its likely very profitable.
Sadly I don’t own any FF games.
It would appear to be a little remiss of Nvidia if the bulk of their new 4K destined cards only come with 8Gb VRAM.
I’m looking at the 12Gb 3080Ti personally, which should be OK, or at least it looks like it at the moment.
Do we think that the next gen consoles are going to influence a greater VRAM usage then?
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the die/IPC etc is much larger though in that scenario so 2.23GHz might be too much for big Navi, I don't know hell I hope it does 2.5Ghz but it seems unlikely in reality
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I guess not whilst there is little to no competition, but all that's really changed is the marketing kinda sux for the consumer. As a business model sure it makes sense as long as you don't **** off the people who buy your products.
They'll just keep the same price points and with the higher performance uplift they'll call it a "Better performance per $", robbing t**ts.
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I recon so yes. I mean the games are going to make full use of console memory which is more than 8gb. I mean we will always have the option of using lower settings, but paying £500 for a GPU alone and needing to do that is not on when the whole console does it for that price..
The more I think about the 3xxx series, the more I think I should just ride my RTX 2080 until its a bit irrelavant.
At the same time, if NVIDIA follow the same model of the 3080ti now lasting and being king for aslong as the 2080ti was, then I might just jump in.
At the same time, if NVIDIA follow the same model of the 3080ti now lasting and being king for aslong as the 2080ti was, then I might just jump in.
We're gonna have the now standard GPU launch, hilariously bad prices coupled with the standard convenient "lack of supply", so be prepared to tack on a good few quid to whatever the supposed launch price is.
Maybe they can throw in millipede this time around.
Maybe they can throw in millipede this time around.
It looks like Nvidia messed up, or maybe they planned it this way
https://www.igorslab.de/en/chipsize-leaked-vidia-ampere-ga102-in-sams-8-nm-lpp-always-more-likely/
Samsung's "8nm" process is really nowhere close to being as efficient as TSMC's 7nm or 7nm+.
That's why Ampere is so power hungry with several high end cards featuring over 300w TDP specifications.
Perhaps Nvidia got cocky and decided to take the cheap option so they could maximise margins.
However if Nvidia manages to still stay ahead of AMD with a vastly inferior process again, that will be very interesting indeed. On the flip side, if AMD wins the next generation - it will be a big egg on Jensen's face for taking the cheap option to go with Samsung instead of the industry leading process node from TSMC.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/chipsize-leaked-vidia-ampere-ga102-in-sams-8-nm-lpp-always-more-likely/
Samsung's "8nm" process is really nowhere close to being as efficient as TSMC's 7nm or 7nm+.
That's why Ampere is so power hungry with several high end cards featuring over 300w TDP specifications.
Perhaps Nvidia got cocky and decided to take the cheap option so they could maximise margins.
However if Nvidia manages to still stay ahead of AMD with a vastly inferior process again, that will be very interesting indeed. On the flip side, if AMD wins the next generation - it will be a big egg on Jensen's face for taking the cheap option to go with Samsung instead of the industry leading process node from TSMC.
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These cards would have been designed a couple of years ago before AMD even made the jump to 7nm so maybe nvidia did get complacent as AMD were in no mans land at the time.
nVidia spent a lot of time evaluating price, availability, yields and so on - whatever decision was made won't have been made without a lot of planning.
I'd be careful as well when it comes to people on periphery of the industry as they might not have the complete picture when it comes to nVidia plans on this.
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Yeah. Another big disappointment.
Is that chart legit? The price grid looks like it's been photoshopped onto it.
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Well this only happens when a company feels no pressure.
Look at Intel prior to Ryzen. Lazy lazy increases year on year for what a decade.
AMD and the other players need to step up and we need a GPU Ryzen moment from another player.
Look at Intel prior to Ryzen. Lazy lazy increases year on year for what a decade.
AMD and the other players need to step up and we need a GPU Ryzen moment from another player.