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One of many indications. Not sure why he thinks they don't care about competition.
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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards
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Soldato
Yes and need to have this (mindest) domino affect from others too. With people still buying 2080+ at the silly prices, its not going to change. The radeon VII was another price point too far so not really much choice but if you own something similar in performance to a vega/1080, the likes of a 5700XT or 2070S is not a good enough leap. We are pretty much at August now so hopefully see what in store so we can eyeball where the next upgrade path will be.
right so Turing was an outlier.
so to fix it nvidia would have to release Ampere at a lower price or much higher performance.
for example if they give the same price/performance bump that was "acceptable" in previous years for Ampere then the Turing "outlier" pricing is still carried over into next gen and since I don't have a time machine I don't really care about the price/performance increments 5 years ago.
Once the prices go up they rarely come down.......
right so Turing was an outlier. oh wait goldfish memory
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right so Turing was an outlier.
so to fix it nvidia would have to release Ampere at a lower price or much higher performance.
for example if they give the same price/performance bump that was "acceptable" in previous years for Ampere then the Turing "outlier" pricing is still carried over into next gen and since I don't have a time machine I don't really care about the price/performance increments 5 years ago.
Once the prices go up they rarely come down.......
right so Turing was an outlier. oh wait goldfish memory
Right now, our GPU money doesn't perform as well it should.
I don't care if Nvidia makes a $5000 GPU or even a $10000 GPU. (If they perform)
But I also want what they make at normal price points to be meaningfully faster too.
This,. I am thinking of adding a 3090 to replace the two 2080ti, a LG CX48" screen and add a PS5 on my desk. Best of all worlds.
If this is accurate it bodes very well for the performance of the 3070.
Before someone says it, maybe not for the price
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... and how much power is that going to need? If rumours are true will potential buyers need a new PSU too? Really hope AMD step up this time, Nvidia need taking down a peg.
Soldato
I'm quite hopeful that prices will normalise this generation (all the indicators are there) and looking forward to pushing the 48CX all the way at 4k. However, my plan B is to retain my 1080ti which still has 2 years warranty left, and pick up a new console instead of the GPU. Having used the CX for a few weeks it's more suited to 3rd person games anyway, and the console will have better HDR support.
I'll be disappointed, but happy enough to sit out another over priced generation.
You obviously haven't seen the latest Big Navi rumour then.
Yeah, like the bombshell Coreteks just dropped saying big navi only 15% faster than 2080ti, might match 3080
https://coreteks.tech/articles/index.php/2020/07/29/big-navi-not-so-big/
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I'm quite hopeful that prices will normalise this generation (all the indicators are there) and looking forward to pushing the 48CX all the way at 4k. However, my plan B is to retain my 1080ti which still has 2 years warranty left, and pick up a new console instead of the GPU. Having used the CX for a few weeks it's more suited to 3rd person games anyway, and the console will have better HDR support.
I'll be disappointed, but happy enough to sit out another over priced generation.
Are they? Tech just seems to be getting more expensive. Even Samsung now think it's ok to charge £1,400~ for a smartphone. I'd imagine that's more the limit now, but don't see those decreasing given buyers of the 2080ti have as good as approved their lunacy.
Soldato
Smartphone prices are irrelevant.
The indicators IMO are:
New console release; this is the biggest factor because the parity is much closer on initial release. 2 years from now the GPU will wipe the floor with the PS5, but not this year.
GPU mining is nowhere near the level it was when Turing released.
The Covid economic hit; there's simply less disposable income out there and the unemployment fallout will go nuclear in October with furlough ending.
best of all worlds with an outlay of 2k+.
Don't know about that, i went form a LC Vega 64 to a 2070 Super, and the performance increase is massive.
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It's not really massive, come on it's like 15/20 FPS increase and that is game based. Massive is me coming from an R9 290 to Vega 64 that was massive gains.
15/20fps my ass.
I played Exodus on Ultra settings, with Ultra RT on my Super, and it ran faster than it did on my 64, on only high settings, no RT (obviously).
Its quite a performance increase.
I played Exodus on Ultra settings, with Ultra RT on my Super, and it ran faster than it did on my 64, on only high settings, no RT (obviously).
Its quite a performance increase.
Soldato
I've just done the exact same jump and it's more like 75%
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I wouldnt call 50% massive.
Soldato
Have to concur with @shankly1985 its not a mammoth jump at all. Even using a % is in certain use cases. Certainly not worth shelling our £450-500 from a vega now way.