Declining attitude to law and order

[Uther]

A part of me wonders whether this is on purpose to drub up public displeasure and reduce the ability of the defendants to successfully appeal.

Just what the **** would they be appealing against? They've got off very lightly. The family of the policeman they killed horribly have a life sentence, these scumbags will be out by the time they are 30...

 

[StriderX]

Just what the **** would they be appealing against? They've got off very lightly. The family of the policeman they killed horribly have a life sentence, these scumbags will be out by the time they are 30...

They're criminals who have no remorse and minimal intelligence, why wouldn't they appeal? It's their right, it's also the right of a judge to take a cursory glance and bin it.

 

[BowdonUK]

I'm surprised no one as mentioned the uniformed black march that happened in Brixton over the weekend.

Wearing a uniform on a march is illegal on mainland UK. Yet people on the march were wearing military style black uniforms.

The police stood around doing nothing, and in one headline the police thanked them for a peaceful demonstration! Talk about selectively applying the law. If that had been a white group dressed in military style outfits the cops would have been breaking it up, arresting people on the day, and using camera technology would have been arresting more people later.

Met Police thank Brixton demonstrators for peaceful African Emancipation Day rally after only three arrests
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lon...-day-curfew-police-restrictions-a4514286.html

 

[Janesy B]

I'm surprised no one as mentioned the uniformed black march that happened in Brixton over the weekend.

Wearing a uniform on a march is illegal on mainland UK. Yet people on the march were wearing military style black uniforms.

The police stood around doing nothing, and in one headline the police thanked them for a peaceful demonstration! Talk about selectively applying the law. If that had been a white group dressed in military style outfits the cops would have been breaking it up, arresting people on the day, and using camera technology would have been arresting more people later.

Met Police thank Brixton demonstrators for peaceful African Emancipation Day rally after only three arrests
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lon...-day-curfew-police-restrictions-a4514286.html

Black T shirts and cargos with utility vests are now military style uniforms, lol get a grip.



I assume this lot were tracked down and arrested?

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and...matter-protesters-defend-cenotaph-in-bristol/



A very amusing application of whataboutery.

 

[The Running Man]

Think they were referring to this lot the FF

Apparently wearing stab proof vests is the only way they can avoid stabbing each other.

With the police not using knifes not sure why else they would need them.

But still.. err blm?

 

[explicit4u]

Think they were referring to this lot the FF

Apparently wearing stab proof vests is the only way they can avoid stabbing each other.

With the police not using knifes not sure why else they would need them.

But still.. err blm?

You'd think someone who is obsessed with this topic would at least know they aren't BLM and the march had nothing to do with BLM.

The pictures are also of the same group from different angles.

 

[BowdonUK]

Black T shirts and cargos with utility vests are now military style uniforms, lol get a grip.

This group were all dressed in the same colour outfit. The outfit had the same words on FF Force. The outfit had the same symbol on... and you're here saying its not a uniform?

Prohibition of uniforms in connection with political objects.

(1) Subject as hereinafter provided, any person who in any public place or at any public meeting wears uniform signifying his association with any political organisation or with the promotion of any political object shall be guilty of an offence.

The law was brought in against Mosley's Blackshirts. So if you're saying these people aren't wearing uniforms then following your logic you wouldnt have had a problem with Mosley's Blackshirts either?

 

[Hagar]

This group were all dressed in the same colour outfit. The outfit had the same words on FF Force. The outfit had the same symbol on... and you're here saying its not a uniform?



The law was brought in against Mosley's Blackshirts. So if you're saying these people aren't wearing uniforms then following your logic you wouldnt have had a problem with Mosley's Blackshirts either?

You are right. This needs curbing quickly. Where are our police force when we need actions not words? Kneeling most likely.

 

[The Running Man]

You'd think someone who is obsessed with this topic would at least know they aren't BLM and the march had nothing to do with BLM.

The pictures are also of the same group from different angles.

What do you mean? I thought blm was a universal movement that transcended individual marches. But anyway.


I'm sure the people in Brixton are smart enough to know the biggest threat to their lives are black gangs and knife crime and not the popo.

 

[arknor]

welcome to the american world of professional marches where the people attending are probably getting paid.

 

[Zatoichi.uK]

Sargon did a vid on this and agree it is pretty cringe tbh. All getting rather tiresome now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91GjZ_lCdxs

 

[Hades]

Black T shirts and cargos with utility vests are now military style uniforms, lol get a grip.



I assume this lot were tracked down and arrested?

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and...matter-protesters-defend-cenotaph-in-bristol/



A very amusing application of whataboutery.

The guy wearing the German military helmet isn't doing the "not far right" message a lot of good

The FF Force shows just what BLM has become (and in part always was)... a force. Not good either.

 

[Hades]

You are right. This needs curbing quickly. Where are our police force when we need actions not words? Kneeling most likely.

Unfortunately we don't have one anymore. It was rebranded a service rather than a force so as not to offend people.

They are also all too busy bullying a 16 year old kid walking across a road and telling him police cars don't have to get out of a pedestrians way. They rarely take action against a uniformed force marching through the capital when they can pick on a nice easy child instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zcm0M15viw

 

[Lord-Jaffa]

Black T shirts and cargos with utility vests are now military style uniforms, lol get a grip.



I assume this lot were tracked down and arrested?

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and...matter-protesters-defend-cenotaph-in-bristol/



A very amusing application of whataboutery.

It's not whataboutery, it's a clear violation of public order act 1936.

YOUR reply however, IS whataboutery. Which leads me to conclude that you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[explicit4u]

The guy wearing the German military helmet isn't doing the "not far right" message a lot of good

The FF Force shows just what BLM has become (and in part always was)... a force. Not good either.

What's the connection between FF Force and BLM?

Unfortunately we don't have one anymore. It was rebranded a service rather than a force so as not to offend people.

They are also all too busy bullying a 16 year old kid walking across a road and telling him police cars don't have to get out of a pedestrians way. They rarely take action against a uniformed force marching through the capital when they can pick on a nice easy child instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zcm0M15viw

What do you want staffordshire police to do about an incident in Brixton, London?

 

[Hades]

What's the connection between FF Force and BLM

As mentioned by another poster here, it's not directly the same group but BLM appears to be a collection of related groups.

What do you want staffordshire police to do about an incident in Brixton, London?

That's missing the point about the change in police attitude across the country.

 

[Janesy B]

You are right. This needs curbing quickly. Where are our police force when we need actions not words? Kneeling most likely.

Probably taking selfies with murder victims.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/25/met-police-officers-arrested-sharing-pictures-murder-scene-12904483/

 

[Janesy B]

It's not whataboutery, it's a clear violation of public order act 1936.

Haha okay, you forgot to put your facebook law degree in your signature.

 

[VincentHanna]

Haha okay, you forgot to put your facebook law degree in your signature.

He's just parroting what Nigel Farrage said.

The order states:

Prohibition of uniforms in connection with political objects.
Subject as hereinafter provided, any person who in any public place or at any public meeting wears uniform signifying his association with any political organisation or with the promotion of any political object shall be guilty of an offence:

Provided that, if the chief officer of police is satisfied that the wearing of any such uniform as aforesaid on any ceremonial, anniversary, or other special occasion will not be likely to involve risk of public disorder, he may, with the consent of a Secretary of State, by order permit the wearing of such uniform on that occasion either absolutely or subject to such conditions as may be specified in the order.


Prohibition of quasimilitary organisations.
If the members or adherents of any association of persons, whether incorporated or not, are—

(a)organised or trained or equipped for the purpose of enabling them to be employed in usurping the functions of the police or of the armed forces of the Crown; or

(b)organised and trained or organised and equipped either for the purpose of enabling them to be employed for the use or display of physical force in promoting any political object, or in such manner as to arouse reasonable apprehension that they are organised and either trained or equipped for that purpose;

I don't think a nearly 100 year old law applies to these guys on a peaceful protest.

 

[StriderX]

I'm mightily confused, is it not free speech to wear what you want? Where's all the principled libertarian thinking gone... starting to think it was never about free speech.

In seriousness, I'd think especially hard about disenfranchisement and not getting in one's own way.