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I can't see the demand for these getting even close to what people who wanted a 3080,3090 and possibly 3070 gpu's.
For me I have no need to venture in Zen 3 for at least 6 to 8 months and unless they come down in price like previous Ryzen I'll not bother till Zen 4.
 
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It would make sense to limit everyone to a single unit of any one model.
At least for the first day to give a broader range of people a equal chance to secure one at launch.
That would at least slow the bot scripts down from buying multiple units in just one single transaction.
 
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To be fair low end buyers only dream of Ferrari's. To the low end £250 is an expensive CPU. Whether it is now £300 is immaterial, they're looking at £100 ;)

There are multiple price points, not just £100, £150 and £200 and £250/+, this is the point I am trying to make, are they going to keep 3600 at £200 if so then it stagnates the £200 price point.

That is what I am saying, just like the gpu price point and £200 to 300 price range it hasn't moved that much in performance in 5 years or so.
I would more likely get a second hand 6/8/12 zen 2 or buy a 3900x for around 340, but it depends on the performance of 5600x.

What Fox is saying at the £100 to £200 range price per performance is very sensitive and I wanted more performance at £200 than last Gen if not I might as well get a second hand Cpu or pick up a 3900x.
 
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There are multiple price points, not just £100, £150 and £200 and £250/+, this is the point I am trying to make, are they going to keep 3600 at £200 if so then it stagnates the £200 price point.

That is what I am saying, just like the gpu price point and £200 to 300 price range it hasn't moved that much in performance in 5 years or so.
I would more likely get a second hand 6/8/12 zen 2 or buy a 3900x for around 340, but it depends on the performance of 5600x.

What Fox is saying at the £100 to £200 range price per performance is very sensitive and I wanted more performance at £200 than last Gen if not I might as well get a second hand Cpu or pick up a 3900x.
Agree. Fundamentally they're not serving that market with the new chips yet, and the closest thing is a big stretch.
 
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I'm extremely confused at the 5900x msrp $599 £530
Vs 5800x msrp $549 £430.
One is overpriced or one is under priced, $50 ain't £100?
Does the 5900x come in a box with 10 house bricks to make it more expensive to transport?
 
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I'm extremely confused at the 5900x msrp $599 £530
Vs 5800x msrp $549 £430.
One is overpriced or one is under priced, $50 ain't £100?
Does the 5900x come in a box with 10 house bricks to make it more expensive to transport?
It's $450, but house bricks would make for a good pack-in bonus!
 
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I didnt buy the 3600 at £150 a few months back as the new gen was coming, it turned out to be new con not a new gen. Bumping the price of the old processor to £200ish and way over pricing its replacement. Sorry but £290 for a 5600 is too rich for me.
 
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I didnt buy the 3600 at £150 a few months back as the new gen was coming, it turned out to be new con not a new gen. Bumping the price of the old processor to £200ish and way over pricing its replacement. Sorry but £290 for a 5600 is too rich for me.

You should have bought the 3600 if it was a genuine offer. That is a bonkers amount of processing power for £150.
 
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Prices are starting to leak on other sites, here is one example... of one well known uk retailer..

The Ryzen 5 5600X is priced at £310.69, the Ryzen 7 5800X at £466.57, Ryzen 9 5900X at £570.47, and the Ryzen 9 5950X at £830.26.

This retailer above normally doesn't price gouge too and if they do it's normally £10-£20 for most items..

So lets see what the real prices will be on launch and I don't mean 1-2 people buying at the so called MSRP and rest at the new prices as what happened with the GPUS if that is what happened...

So heads up have £800+ ready for 5950x or go grab a 3950x while still about for £650 if you can find them now as most places have gone up to £700-£730 now for them too and some even at £750 and over. Also I see a lot of retailers saying while stocks last for the 3000 series now so clearly they don't want to restock or the 3000 series is EOL now and none being made, but I thought AMD said they would still be making them for a while longer ? Anyways just a heads up for you all so don't be annoyed later that you missed a 3000 series deal and the 3900x can be found for £400 and maybe a little under right now or spend almost £200 more for same cpu soon with maybe only real world of 10% performance boost.. We don't know yet till real reviews.
 
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Well look at that 15 month old product is discounted, was it £349 new on release? 5900X will be similar price in 15 months time.
my point being that i'm not sure the cost/performance ratio comes out at all good for a £530 5900x versus a £349 3900X...

and on appearance alone the cost/performance of an 8c £430 5800x versus a 12c £349 3900x is positively ugly!
 
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my point being that i'm not sure the cost/performance ratio comes out at all good for a £530 5900x versus a £349 3900X...

and on appearance alone the cost/performance of an 8c £430 5800x versus a 12c £349 3900x is positively ugly!


Not sure where you are seeing a 3900x for £349... even an oem goes for £389 that's not boxed and 1 year warranty and comes on a tray for system builders.:rolleyes:

https://pricespy.co.uk/computers-ac...0x-3.8ghz-socket-am4-box--p5139825/statistics

Real world prices ...^ not fake hotukdeals prices that were never real and never sold at that price.


Only real time I saw that was here by OCUK and was an in store deal and limited.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/foru...-for-ocuk-20th-birthday-celebration.18879345/


Second hand or B-grade don't count as they are used and returned too. My google-fu maybe off today but cheapest I can see is £389 OEM (Without Cooler) as of today and that's an oem chip with VAT on it and 1 year warranty only.
 
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Yes 1000’s

I imagine they will sell very fast, I guess it's a case of how many you can stock to how many the warehouse guys can get out unless you do done kind of staggered delivery (here's me pretending that I know anything about how an online retailer works!) - interesting though with the numbers how much money OCUK will make in the space of an hour at 5pm on the 5th.

Maybe there is a limit of how many you could order from AMD? Or maybe a cashflow limit, I mean as one user posted, if it's thousand(s) then depending on how many thousands you could be looking at a million £ + up front, which is s fair chunk of money to put up front.

Based on nothing, just my gut feeling ill reckon they'll sell fast, I'll be hammering the F5 key from 4:55pm onwards.
 
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I'm slightly puzzled by why prices can change. If these are air shipped to the UK, then I can understand that the actual purchase from AMD could be a few days ahead of the release date and so the actual price on release day is at the mercy of what AMD charge at the time. But if they are being shipped by cargo ship, these CPUs are already purchased and out on the sea. In that case the price should be fixed. And in that case if the price is changing (upwards) it can only be because of profits. I suppose that's capitalism for you. But a distributor who set and held to the price would probably reap the reward of volume sales and reputation for return sales.
 
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