Buy or Build when stocks are low with 3060 or 3070?

[EViLHomer48]

Hiya,
Have a 7.5 year old prebuilt system. with I5 4670K and 16Gb mismatched DDR3 RAM, plus a 1060GTX.
Been alright until recently but starting to show legs.

I could build my own and looking at the £1400 CustomPc magazine build with a 3070 and Radeon 5series. Am I more likely to get a pre-built from OC or buy components separately.

Not much to take from current rig as plan on having it over to my Dad, probably just my PSU as it is a Corsair 750W. Buy him a cheaper one (or lift from his machine before it is scrapped).

Interested in two options, appreciate the extra cost of prebuilt, but can stand that at moment.
I want to stick with Radeon and Nvidia as another machine in the house is running Radeon 1600 and 2070S so want to upgrade that eventually. Meaning I can take a 3600 to keep initial costs down....

I dont overclock and dont buy that often as you can see.
Cheers for any advice

 

[mickyflinn]

Build a pc reuse the gtx 1060 and dad can use the onboard graphics if not gaming.

 

[dfour]

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x OcUK Gaming Radiance Bullet - AMD Ryzen 3600 - Powered By Asus Gaming PC = £1,319.95
  • Memory:Team Group Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - RGB Black (TF1D4
  • Primary Solid State Drive:WD Blue 3D NAND 1TB M.2 2280 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0B)
  • Case:CoolerMaster MasterBox Q300L Micro-ATX Case - Black Window
  • Secondary Solid State Drive:Unwanted
  • Storage Drive:Unwanted
  • Graphics Card:Asus GeForce RTX 3060Ti TUF Gaming OC 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
  • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
  • Peripheral Bundle:Unwanted

Total: £1,334.05 (includes shipping: £14.10)​

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You can save £109 if yuou already have a windows licence.

 

[EViLHomer48]

2 things - the 1060 is showing its legs on my AOC QHD monitor (only 75Hz), because games settings are lower.

and dfour - I have already clocked that build, but would want to up the RAM clock speed wouldnt I?

 

[EViLHomer48]

Right have started to put together a build (rather than buy) because the customisation options on OcUK seem to be limited? (but could be me), when starting from a base model.

Need to add the 3060 but cant add to basket.

RAM, case and cooling all up to it?
Will post my existing PSU later (is a few years old).

It is a gaming machine, but will add a mech HDD for photos, videos.
However, thinking of another M2 drive for games - leaving Windows/Office on the 500Gb below (hence why not gone with 1TB), as always keep games on a D drive (not C).

Also the case sits on a wooden stand under a desk. Currently have a Corsair Carbide 300 (?) with no windows and need the buttons top front (not side or down front). So wont benefit from a lot of lighting bling.

Thoughts please?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard= £149.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £179.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey= £74.99
• 1 x WD Black 500GB SN850 M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS500G1X0E)= £130.99
• 1 x Fractal Design Define 7 Compact Mid-Tower Case - Black Light Tint Tempered Glass= £99.95
• 1 x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition CPU Cooler - 120mm= £34.99

Total: £684.10 (includes shipping: £13.20)
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[dfour]

Yes but its really easy to up the speeds of your ram using ryzen dram calculator.

You will be very lucky atm to got a nvidia 3*** series card outside of a pre-build.

In reality there is little point is spending so much on a c drive as you will see very little difference between gen 3 and gen 4 in the real world. Looks great on benchmarks

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Alpenfohn Brocken ECO Advanced CPU Cooler - 120 mm= £29.99
• 1 x WD Blue SN550 1TB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0C)= £94.99
• 1 x WD Black 500GB SN750 M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS500G3X0C)= £64.99
• 1 x Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh performance Midi-Tower Case - Black= £81.95

Total: £286.62 (includes shipping: £14.70)​

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[EViLHomer48]

Leaning towards this case as the height of the Lian-Li above is a bit high (getting close to underneath of desk)
My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Fractal Design Meshify C Mid-Tower Case - Black= £86.99

Total: £98.09 (includes shipping: £11.10)​

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[Quartz]

Cheers for any advice

I have seen comments elsewhere which suggest that pre-built and built-to-order systems get priority on low-stock items. Apparently one of the North American places has been finding people returning everything except the GPU.

 

[EViLHomer48]

I have seen comments elsewhere which suggest that pre-built and built-to-order systems get priority on low-stock items. Apparently one of the North American places has been finding people returning everything except the GPU.

HAHA - too honest would never have thought of that....

 

[EViLHomer48]

Current PSU is a Corsair 750W Builder Series CX750M.
It is a replacement unit (was swapped under warranty a good few years ago), would this handle a 3060 now or would I best off getting a new PSU too?

If so any reasons NOT to buy one of these?
My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Seasonic Core Gold GC-650 650W 80+ Gold Power Supply= £79.99

Total: £90.49 (includes shipping: £10.50)​

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[EViLHomer48]

Found a pre order prebuild with a 3070 and relatively short timescales, but with a single 16Gb RAM - why not 2 x 8Gb in Dual Channel?
Would I be better doubling to 32Gb or just leave it?

 

[mickyflinn]

Found a pre order prebuild with a 3070 and relatively short timescales, but with a single 16Gb RAM - why not 2 x 8Gb in Dual Channel?
Would I be better doubling to 32Gb or just leave it?

Definatelly a single stick ram will loose you up to 20% in performance over dual channel in gaming, depending on resoloution and game.

 

[Joxeon]

This one has a 3070 with 2x8gb ram, should be about £1200 if you install Windows yourself.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x OcUK Gaming Pyrite Gaming PC - Intel Core i5 10400F, Nvidia RTX 3070 Gaming PC = £1,306.96
  • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
  • Security Software:Unwanted
  • Primary Solid State Drive:WD Blue SN550 500GB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS500G2B0C)
  • Secondary 2.5" Solid State Drive :Unwanted
  • Memory:Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-21600C18 2666MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey
  • Cooler Upgrade:Unwanted
  • Graphics Card:*Build Stock* Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 Gaming OC 8GB GDDR6 Graphics Card

Total: £1,321.06 (includes shipping: £14.10)​

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[EViLHomer48]

good shout thanks but want to stick to Ryzen because I have another machine with only a 3 1600, ultimately the CPU from the new one will end up there. Hence why sticking to a 3600 (or thereabouts)

 

[EViLHomer48]

Have had another bash, as struggling with a pre-build

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P360 Air Mid Tower Case Tempered Glass DRGB,- Glacier White= £68.95
• 1 x Alpenfohn Ben Nevis Advanced Black RGB CPU Cooler - 130mm= £29.99
• 1 x MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard= £149.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £188.99
• 1 x Patriot Viper Steel 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS432G360C8K)= £149.99
• 1 x WD Blue 3D NAND 500GB M.2 2280 Solid State Drive (WDS500G2B0B)= £52.99
• 1 x Super Flower Leadex III ARGB 650W 80 PLUS Gold Modular Power Supply - Black= £94.99

Total: £749.09 (includes shipping: £13.20)
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[EViLHomer48]

I need some extra case fans , which ones for this which are the changes to the Radiance Bullet Build.

Keep having to change bits because of no stock

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P360 Air Mid Tower Case Tempered Glass DRGB,- Glacier White= £68.95
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £188.99
• 1 x Patriot Viper Steel 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS416G360C8K)= £89.99
• 1 x WD Blue 3D NAND 500GB M.2 2280 Solid State Drive (WDS500G2B0B)= £52.99
• 1 x Super Flower Leadex III ARGB 650W 80 PLUS Gold Modular Power Supply - Black= £94.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming B550-Plus (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard= £149.99
• 1 x Alpenfohn Brocken ECO Advanced CPU Cooler - 120 mm= £29.99

Total: £675.89 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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[EViLHomer48]

So to get 2 M.2 slots and the ability to drop a 5000 series CPU in down the lines, is b550 my only option OR does a B450 still do the job?
Keep being undecided between Asus and MSI for the m/board. Earlier I had the MSI MPG 550 but is out of stock now.

Kind of need some Airplane style therapy to smack me out of indecision, but have barely touched current machine in 7 years!! So want it to last

Also 16Gb or 32Gb RAM? Just because I can?

 

[mickyflinn]

B450 does support 5000 cpus and depending on the motherboard can have 2 m2 drives. B550 support pcie4 but b450 doesnt its only pcie3 , 16gb or 32gb memory up to you.

 

[EViLHomer48]

Thanks for all advice, have finally gone down the Radiance Bullet route with quite some changes.

 

[EViLHomer48]

Update machine arrived yesterday morning from OCUK and what a stunning machine!
Nearly the same as specs above, but with 32Gb of HyperX Fury 3600 RAM, plus 3 extra matching case fans and 2 of these drives

• 2 x Seagate BarraCuda Q5 1TB M.2 PCI-e Gen3 NVME Solid State Drive (ZP1000CV3A001)= £89.99

Total: £98.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)
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and the whole reason for the upgrade with this as the GPU:
ASUS GEFORCE RTX 3060Ti TUF 8GB GDDR6 PCI-EXPRESS