Who owns a Golf GTD / GTI / R?

MissChief · 3 Feb 2021 at 00:57

SDK^ said:
The new Golf R is pricey - from £39.2k
That’s £1.5k more than a BMW 135, about £800 more than an Audi S3 and £2k above the Mercedes A35. VW aiming high with this one.

All about the monthlies. Those outright buying a car or using a standard HP agreement are likely single digit buyers.

xraycat87 · 8 Feb 2021 at 17:03

Has anyone here got the new golf 8, whatever model.

I'm looking at getting the GTD but are these cars easily upgradable in terms of sound system/amp/subwoofer.

A branch near me has a discounted GTD in stock. I'm aware you can factory order a gtd with the Herman system but that would be a lot more.

silvagti · 8 Feb 2021 at 17:34

Had anyone with a Mk7 GTi/R test driven or bought a new Mk8 GTi/R?

Just wondering how different they are to drive as on paper they appear pretty similar given they're still using much the same engine/chassis/platform?

Dangerous Dave · 8 Feb 2021 at 17:52

silvagti said:
Had anyone with a Mk7 GTi/R test driven or bought a new Mk8 GTi/R?

Just wondering how different they are to drive as on paper they appear pretty similar given they're still using much the same engine/chassis/platform?

MK8 Golf R runs a new rear diff setup looks to have copied the MK3 RS Focus with clutches to each wheel with torque vectoring even comes with drift mode. I would expect it handles better than the MK7.5 because of this.

I've driven a normal one and the lack of any buttons to control climate/heated seats/stereo etc is very annoying even the steering wheel controls are touch controlled rather than physical put me off getting a Golf regardless of how good the rest of the package may be.

dessimpson · 8 Feb 2021 at 21:57

Dangerous Dave said:
I've driven a normal one and the lack of any buttons to control climate/heated seats/stereo etc is very annoying even the steering wheel controls are touch controlled rather than physical put me off getting a Golf regardless of how good the rest of the package may be.

This is what me decide to keep my current one when the PCP ends in March.

Well. That and the fact it's worth about £6k more than my final payment

silvagti · 8 Feb 2021 at 22:08

Dangerous Dave said:
MK8 Golf R runs a new rear diff setup looks to have copied the MK3 RS Focus with clutches to each wheel with torque vectoring even comes with drift mode. I would expect it handles better than the MK7.5 because of this.

I've driven a normal one and the lack of any buttons to control climate/heated seats/stereo etc is very annoying even the steering wheel controls are touch controlled rather than physical put me off getting a Golf regardless of how good the rest of the package may be.

I think that's what's disappointed me about the Mk8. Given the minor changes if feels more like a Mk7 facelift than an entirely new model. Similar to the Mk5 to Mk6 update.

I agree that whilst the interior changes make it seem more modern it definitely feels like form over function overall.

That's why I'd wondered just how much of a difference the mk8 changes made overall and was keen to hear from folk who've tried both models in r/GTi form.

mjt · 9 Feb 2021 at 08:01

Dangerous Dave said:
I've driven a normal one and the lack of any buttons to control climate/heated seats/stereo etc is very annoying even the steering wheel controls are touch controlled rather than physical put me off getting a Golf regardless of how good the rest of the package may be.

Yup, looks like it. That's what's put my parents off a Mk8 to replace their Mk6 GTI..

Gilbert89 · 2 Mar 2021 at 09:24

Would I be bonkers buying a 2017 Golf GTD MK7.5 with 15,000 miles for £18,000 (Manual) Cars seem so expensive, I feel GTD's etc all have gone silly prices during Covid.

Ricochet J · 2 Mar 2021 at 09:32

Gilbert89 said:
Would I be bonkers buying a 2017 Golf GTD MK7.5 with 15,000 miles for £18,000 (Manual) Cars seem so expensive, I feel GTD's etc all have gone silly prices during Covid.

The most bonkers thing would be to buy a manual.

Adam Tench · 2 Mar 2021 at 09:32

Gilbert89 said:
Would I be bonkers buying a 2017 Golf GTD MK7.5 with 15,000 miles for £18,000 (Manual) Cars seem so expensive, I feel GTD's etc all have gone silly prices during Covid.

May be a touch expensive. Depends on the history and options/spec list. You can buy mine for 11k!

Adam Tench · 2 Mar 2021 at 09:46

Ricochet J said:
The most bonkers thing would be to buy a manual.

?? Nothing wrong with a manual

ddoubleep · 2 Mar 2021 at 10:35

The prices are indeed bonkers. The GTI prices have held up. Was looking at alternatives to test drive soon over the M140i as have a soft spot for the GTI but the 7.5 PP DSG is around £21k and no signs of dropping.

Gilbert89 · 2 Mar 2021 at 11:10

Ricochet J said:
The most bonkers thing would be to buy a manual.

Having an Auto Box out of warranty scares me a little plus I quite enjoy manual and it's cheaper.

Adam Tench said:
May be a touch expensive. Depends on the history and options/spec list. You can buy mine for 11k!

It looks to be a immaculate example MK 7.5 which comes with practically everything on them as standard I believe? minus the upgraded sound and so on.
My part ex is £13,000 towards this which is generous so buying elsewhere doesn't make sense either.

Ricochet J · 2 Mar 2021 at 11:38

Adam Tench said:
?? Nothing wrong with a manual

Given how far automatic transmissions have come along in terms of reliability, longevity, comfort and ease of use I can't see why anyone would buy a car with a manual gearbox.

Gilbert89 said:
Having an Auto Box out of warranty scares me a little plus I quite enjoy manual and it's cheaper.

In my opinion the warranty is a non issue. It's a mk7.5 Golf. The automatic gearbox isn't going to suddenly fail no more than the engine suddenly failing. BUT it appears you've made your mind and I won't say more on the subject.

P.s. I drive a 2009 car with a automatic transmission. Older than your mk7.5 Golf. It has covered 70k miles and I can't see why they'd be an issue going forward.

SDK^ · 2 Mar 2021 at 11:42

MissChief said:
All about the monthlies. Those outright buying a car or using a standard HP agreement are likely single digit buyers.

The current lease profile of the new Golf R is :

Personal lease pricing, so includes VAT. Standard car with white paint.
Initial Payment : £2,300
35 x £400
10k miles pa
36 months

So around £16k over 3 years, or about £5.3k per year.

My Mk7 Golf R cost £4k per year to lease

turbot1984 · 2 Mar 2021 at 12:01

Ricochet;) J said:
The most bonkers thing would be to buy a manual.

Thought my mk7 GTD manual was a good car, miss the £20 tax and mpg! A 535D took its place, cost wars lost, engine wars mullered

layte · 2 Mar 2021 at 14:41

Gilbert89 said:
Having an Auto Box out of warranty scares me a little plus I quite enjoy manual and it's cheaper.

I extended the VW warranty on my DSG 7.5R for £25 a month. The box was the thing that worried me the most.

MissChief · 2 Mar 2021 at 15:09

layte said:
I extended the VW warranty on my DSG 7.5R for £25 a month. The box was the thing that worried me the most.

Seems like a no brainer really. £300 a year for peace of mind. If something goes wrong that’s only four hours Labour. Seems like a bargain.

Lustral · 2 Mar 2021 at 16:09

The water pump and thermostat housing worries me the most about my Mk7 R, I also pay about £30 per month extended VW warranty for peace of mine. My R is almost 5 years ago now.

Fusion · 3 Mar 2021 at 07:03

SDK^ said:
The new Golf R is pricey - from £39.2k
That’s £1.5k more than a BMW 135, about £800 more than an Audi S3 and £2k above the Mercedes A35. VW aiming high with this one.

I predict that list price will be relevant to about two people.