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Could the GA100 be very bad news for miners using gaming cards?

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mikehhhhhhh said:
Can you elaborate?

Miners seem to be paying £1-2.5k for 3080s and 3090s that will do 90-120MH/s. Why would a card going 150 need to be under a grand?
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Because it has much much less resale value and using rough RRP values.

If I could buy 2 X 3070s instead for the same price and the same hash rate the dedicated mining card is not worth it. Imo

Mining bubble bursts I can sell the 3070 to a gamer. Mining bubble bursts I have an expensive paperweight with a mining card.

Not sure dedicated mining cards have ever taken off in the past, that said my knowledge is restricted to casual miners and small time mining rigs.
 

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Because it has much much less resale value and using rough RRP values.

If I could buy 2 X 3070s instead for the same price and the same hash rate the dedicated mining card is not worth it. Imo

Mining bubble bursts I can sell the 3070 to a gamer. Mining bubble bursts I have an expensive paperweight with a mining card.

Not sure dedicated mining cards have ever taken off in the past, that said my knowledge is restricted to casual miners and small time mining rigs.
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If Nvidia manage to nuke the hashrate of any future cards without releasing drivers that bypass it, miners may not have any choice.

Not that 2x3070s will achieve 150MH/s anyway, but when 2x 4070s are only doing half the hash rate, they are going to be a lot less appealing.
 

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If Nvidia manage to nuke the hashrate of any future cards without releasing drivers that bypass it, miners may not have any choice.

Not that 2x3070s will achieve 150MH/s anyway, but when 2x 4070s are only doing half the hash rate, they are going to be a lot less appealing.
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Nuking the hashrate may be one of the reasons for the upcoming 3080 Ti where it can be done in hardware.

I can see the 3080 Ti replacing both the 3080 and 3090 as the performance difference between the two latter cards is quite small anyway.
 

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Nuking the hashrate may be one of the reasons for the upcoming 3080 Ti where it can be done in hardware.

I can see the 3080 Ti replacing both the 3080 and 3090 as the performance difference between the two latter cards is quite small anyway.
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I definitely think the 3080Ti will be limited. Not sure about it replacing the existing cards, I imagine it'll be a 3080 with a little more core performance and 12-16gb vram.

There's no reason not to have a 3090 when there are productivity users than can use the 24gb and idiots like me will buy them, especially while there's a card shortage.
 

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Kopite rumour... AKA FAKE NEWS... If the picture is real that card only works in a server rack that has high power fans as the card has no fan. Server gear that's all that is and 3 Nvlink slots says it's a Tesla compute card for a server. That's a £10k+ card right there, as the A6000 is £5k+.

Miners would never buy that as it's a £10k+ paper weight when mining crashes, so why would Nvidia go threw trying to sell a Tesla as a mining card that they know has no real market for such an expensive card that has only one use and even if Nvidia halved the price as a mining card, what stops people wanting a highend compute card buying the cheaper mining card instead of the Tesla, Nvidia can't block it as we have seen.

Kopite :rolleyes: clearly knows nothing about server gear because he's a kid in his mums basement guessing rubbish.

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mikehhhhhhh said:
I definitely think the 3080Ti will be limited. Not sure about it replacing the existing cards, I imagine it'll be a 3080 with a little more core performance and 12-16gb vram.

There's no reason not to have a 3090 when there are productivity users than can use the 24gb and idiots like me will buy them, especially while there's a card shortage.
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If they get rid of the 3090 it leaves room for a full fat GA102 Titan that can fill the above situation
 

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If they get rid of the 3090 it leaves room for a full fat GA102 Titan that can fill the above situation
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The 3090 will be the only one with NVlink in the 3000 series and the Titan if one ever comes out, I think they have killed the Titan range this time and sending people to buy the A6000. 3080ti will not have a NVlink and again will have limited VRAM as it's what Nvidia class as a gaming card only and the 3090 as their so called creator card minus Titan drivers. Will have to see but I don't see a Titan this time round and if they do release one it will basically be a A6000 (36GB/48GB VRAM) with nerfed quadro drivers aka titan drivers and priced around £3000-£3500.
 
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