Debating between 2 builds

ArcticFrenzy · 29 Apr 2021 at 20:51

Hi there, so lets pretend that all the parts were available and that cost was not an issue, out of these 2 builds, which one would be best in your eyes or should I just scrap them and do a different one. main use is high end games and a lot of video editing/ 3D modeling and all that stuff.

Its kind of what ive narrowed my 'once stock exists' wishlist down to but some bits im not 100% sure which way i should go, any advice on what to do would be appreciated.

Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Black Mid
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 core
CPU Cooling: H150i Elite Capellix 360mm
Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 ACE
Memory: 32GB DDR4/3200mhz Quad Channel Memory HyperX Fury RGB
Graphics Card : MSI GeForce® RTX 3080
PSU : Corsair RM1000X
Solid State Drive: 1TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD
M.2 1TB Seagate Firecuda 520 M.2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD
Hard Drive: 12TB Seagate IronWolf Pro SATA-III
or:
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB530P
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12Core
CPU Cooling: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R 360mm
Motherboard: MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk
Memory : Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz
Graphics Card: MSI GeForce® RTX 3080
PSU Corsair RM1000x 1000W A
Solid State Drive: 1TB Seagate Barracuda 120 2.5"
M.2 SSD Drive: 1TB (1x1TB) Seagate Barracuda 510 M.2 PCIe NVMe
Hard Drive: 12TB Seagate IronWolf Pro SATA-III
Extra fans: Cooler Master SickleFlow 120 ARGB Fan 3

mickyflinn · 29 Apr 2021 at 21:18

The first build has a 16 core cpu conpared to 12 core and a better motherboard.

If your using your pc professionally i would change to 2 x m2 drives of the same type reading , writing and transfering data will be much faster . It this is a overclockers pc this can be done buy contacting them before the build process.

Usually more ram is better.

orbitalwalsh · 30 Apr 2021 at 05:36

What software do you use ?

ArcticFrenzy · 30 Apr 2021 at 09:36

mickyflinn said:
The first build has a 16 core cpu conpared to 12 core and a better motherboard.

If your using your pc professionally i would change to 2 x m2 drives of the same type reading , writing and transfering data will be much faster . It this is a overclockers pc this can be done buy contacting them before the build process.

Usually more ram is better.

Yeah I was not sure if the 16 would be overkill :3

ArcticFrenzy · 30 Apr 2021 at 09:37

orbitalwalsh said:
What software do you use ?

Blender, Maya, after effects, Sony Vegas, photoshop are my main tools

mickyflinn · 30 Apr 2021 at 09:53

ArcticFrenzy said:
Yeah I was not sure if the 16 would be overkill :3

I wou6kd say not especially if its your job, blender can use more than 32 threads

EsaT · 30 Apr 2021 at 17:40

3D rendering and video compression can basically hog all cores as fast as elite and big corporations sucking society's money.
Though assuming you'll find it at normal price, 5900X has better bang per buck and just rips through anything not massivley multithreading stuff.

ArcticFrenzy said:
CPU Cooling: H150i Elite Capellix 360mm
Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 ACE
Memory: 32GB DDR4/3200mhz Quad Channel Memory HyperX Fury RGB

PSU : Corsair RM1000X
Solid State Drive: 1TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD

Just forget those brand and fashion overhype waterpipe coolers with slim radiators.
Cooling per price ratio is plain bad in those.
Arctic Freezer II has genuinely beefy 50% thicker than fashion models radiator and hence same class surface area already in 240mm model.
And 280mm and 360mm models obviously in their own class.

Unless needing something special there's zero need for such expensive board, which doesn't make PC any faster or longer good staying.
Already X570 Tomahawk has off the charts bat crazy overkill VRM.

While 3200 MHz would be very pedestrian memory for the budget.
And with dual channel platform you can skip quad channel kit marketing.
Though two sticks per channel guarantees dual rank and command interleaving from it.
In 16 GB DIMMs only ones guaranteeing dual rank is Samsung B-die using models.
Which are expensive and found guaranteedly only from 3200 MHz CL14 and 3600 MHz 16-16-16 latency kits.

850W PSU would be fine for PSU.

And above TLC's price from crappy worser than 10 years old HDD in native write speed QLC Flash...
Heck, that Samsung brand scam overprice drive costs more than TLC based NVMe!
About only Samsung drive whose price is at level of competition is 980 Pro in luxury price category.

ArcticFrenzy · 30 Apr 2021 at 18:51

EsaT said:
3D rendering and video compression can basically hog all cores as fast as elite and big corporations sucking society's money.
Though assuming you'll find it at normal price, 5900X has better bang per buck and just rips through anything not massivley multithreading stuff.

Just forget those brand and fashion overhype waterpipe coolers with slim radiators.
Cooling per price ratio is plain bad in those.
Arctic Freezer II has genuinely beefy 50% thicker than fashion models radiator and hence same class surface area already in 240mm model.
And 280mm and 360mm models obviously in their own class.

Unless needing something special there's zero need for such expensive board, which doesn't make PC any faster or longer good staying.
Already X570 Tomahawk has off the charts bat crazy overkill VRM.

While 3200 MHz would be very pedestrian memory for the budget.
And with dual channel platform you can skip quad channel kit marketing.
Though two sticks per channel guarantees dual rank and command interleaving from it.
In 16 GB DIMMs only ones guaranteeing dual rank is Samsung B-die using models.
Which are expensive and found guaranteedly only from 3200 MHz CL14 and 3600 MHz 16-16-16 latency kits.

850W PSU would be fine for PSU.

And above TLC's price from crappy worser than 10 years old HDD in native write speed QLC Flash...
Heck, that Samsung brand scam overprice drive costs more than TLC based NVMe!
About only Samsung drive whose price is at level of competition is 980 Pro in luxury price category.

some good points there, last time i did a computer build was 9 years ago now I think so im not fully up to date on a lot of bits

orbitalwalsh · 1 May 2021 at 09:53

@EsaT slim rads are fine.. provided they aren't cheap units . XSPC TX 20.5mm copper rad will out perform artic 37mm thick aluminium rad using the same fans

Guessing this is a prebuilt system ? And as easy mentioned, Tomahawk to save cash

EsaT · 1 May 2021 at 09:59

orbitalwalsh said:
@EsaT slim rads are fine.. provided they aren't cheap units . XSPC TX 20.5mm copper rad will out perform artic 37mm thick aluminium rad using the same fans

Fashion brands just don't do high quality copper rads, because those would cut down heavy profit margins.

smogsy · 3 May 2021 at 02:07

Swap PSU to a seasonic and your pretty good either way.