* Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread *

bulldog147 · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:15

Just enabled TPM 2.0 in the bios and Windows 11 health checker still say NO! - Microsoft a biggest failure nightmare once again. I stick to windows 10 pro but switch to Linux Mint (sod Windows 11 for all I care!) lol - Microsoft don't like AMD!

watercooledman · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:17

they will sort it they have too, this TPM rubbish needs to go.
uefi and secure boot yes ok but ditch the TPM.

JohnG7 · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:17

Haswell onward (Intel Platform Trust Technology aka Intel PTT) have the support without the need for a TPM header but the Mobo Bios needs support it.

Semple · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:21

darael said:
I hope Microsoft ease up on these requirements though, as a lot of otherwise perfectly useable hardware is going to be abandoned.

I kinda see both sides of the coin. The requirement of a TPM beefs up the security, which is really going to be a huge focal point of the next decade.

But at the same time, i have a lot of VMs running windows 10, that'll undoubtedly be swapped for windows 11 VMs. The enterprise version of windows we have available at work already requires a TPM, which is fine as all our laptops and workstations have a TPM installed, and last time i tried to install this version as a VM i couldn't get around the lack of TPM.

bulldog147 · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:21

watercooledman said:
they will sort it they have too, this TPM rubbish needs to go.
uefi and secure boot yes ok but ditch the TPM.

I agree - Stupid of Microsoft!

photoshop · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:21

Even though i built my PC in Feb of this year with the latest hardware (see signiture for details) health check says i cant install windows 11.

bulldog147 · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:22

photoshop said:
Even though i built my PC in Feb of this year with the latest hardware (see signiture for details) health check says i cant install windows 11.

The health pc check are bloody useless anyway, is there any work around it to avoid this?

BananaDunka · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:23

Ok can you guys getting cannot run Win11 in the checker even after turning on TPM in the BIOS try this please.

Start > Type tpm.msc and press enter.

Does it show active TPM all working and ready? It does for me yet health checker still says no so it has to be something else.

thenewoc · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:23

bulldog147 said:
Just enabled TPM 2.0 in the bios and Windows 11 health checker still say NO! - Microsoft a biggest failure nightmare once again. I stick to windows 10 pro but switch to Linux Mint (sod Windows 11 for all I care!) lol - Microsoft don't like AMD!

Same problem here, maybe it's so secure the health checker can't read it?

watercooledman · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:24

bulldog147 said:
I agree - Stupid of Microsoft!

i think by the time win 10 they stop the updates in 2025 win 11 maybe ok by then

dymetrie · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:25

Same here with everything seemingly aligned but the PC Health Check still saying no.

Out of interest, does anyone with Win10 pro have a green tick from Win 11 check?

Puzzled · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:26

Don't think any of the laptops / desktops in this house have TPM so thats probably me out

Won't be upgrading them just for Windows 11 though, only had a quick glance at the BBC news story about it but looks like they are copying Apple with the central start / icons and bringing back Vista widgets.

Guess the central start makes sense on ultrawide screens but can't say its ever bothered me.

thenewoc · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:26

mrk said:
Ok can you guys getting cannot run Win11 in the checker even after turning on TPM in the BIOS try this please.

Start > Type tpm.msc and press enter.

Does it show active TPM all working and ready? It does for me yet health checker still says no so it has to be something else.

Mine says the same, have you dared to try clear the TPM?

Jawvig · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:27

If you're already flighting preview builds of Windows, you can apparently bypass the minimum requirements when it ships to dev channel next week: Preparing for Insider Preview Builds of Windows 11 | Windows Insider Blog

bulldog147 · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:29

mrk said:
Ok can you guys getting cannot run Win11 in the checker even after turning on TPM in the BIOS try this please.

Start > Type tpm.msc and press enter.

Does it show active TPM all working and ready? It does for me yet health checker still says no so it has to be something else.

Mine was the same as well. I have contact Microsoft in chat about this. They say you need both Secure Boot and TPM enabled at the same time when you first install Windows 10 on it. Not after!

thenewoc · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:30

This seems very daft, I thought the idea was to get as many people as possible on the same build to make updates less of a PITA (for them).

thenewoc · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:33

bulldog147 said:
Mine was the same as well. I have contact Microsoft in chat about this. They say you need both Secure Boot and TPM enabled at the same time when you first install Windows 10 on it. Not after!

If that were the case surely it would say you'd have to use their install tool to create the media and do a fresh install.

BananaDunka · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:33

thenewoc said:
Mine says the same, have you dared to try clear the TPM?

I have no encrypted data but am too scared to click clear just incase

bulldog147 said:
Mine was the same as well. I have contact Microsoft in chat about this. They say you need both Secure Boot and TPM enabled at the same time when you first install Windows 10 on it. Not after!

Hmm I will take that with a pinch of salt as I know what MS support staff can be like. That is a cop out answer from them! It seems absolutely silly since many people inc myself have upgraded to Win10 from Vista and have been using it fast and smooth like a new install ever since.

We need answers!

JohnG7 · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:36

"Paul Thurrott and Mary Jo Foley have BOTH said that the compatability check program to check if your PC is Windows 11 capable / ready is NOT working correctly."

https://www.elevenforum.com/

You can still install it for now without TPM and next week official Dev builds.

watercooledman · 24 Jun 2021 at 18:36

i had a play with the leaked 11 and was impressed

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