When are you going fully electric?

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As electric cars become mainstream horsepower willy waving will become less of an issue. High powered motors with instant power delivery and instant torque will become common place without needing specialist equipment found in internal combustion engines, like superchargers, turbochargers and intercoolers.
 
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It'd be better if ICE cars got listed with their kW equivalent, rather than us giving bhp equivalent to kW on EVs :D

I saw a good article from Christiaan Hetzner a few months back on ANE on why we should replace BHP/HP/PS with KW. Logically it makes a lot of sense. However, even with EVs I cant see it happening. We'll just keep going with our mix of different measurements for all things automotive! :D
 
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I saw a good article from Christiaan Hetzner a few months back on ANE on why we should replace BHP/HP/PS with KW. Logically it makes a lot of sense. However, even with EVs I cant see it happening. We'll just keep going with our mix of different measurements for all things automotive! :D

It's perfectly simple:

Litres for engine size.
Horsepower for engine output.
Miles Per Gallon for fuel consumption.

Oh.
 
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It's perfectly simple:

Litres for engine size.
Horsepower for engine output.
Miles Per Gallon for fuel consumption.

Oh.

Except you buy your fuel in litres or Kwhs and pay for it in £ (metric).

Don’t get me started on tyres, the engineer in me shudders at the thought of mixing imperial and metric units.

It’s a mess :p
 
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Except you buy your fuel in litres or Kwhs and pay for it in £ (metric).

Don’t get me started on tyres, the engineer in me shudders at the thought of mixing imperial and metric units.

It’s a mess :p

I know what you mean, being a instrumentation engineer in the automotive industry I deal with different units all the time. Mixing units of measurement is a nightmare.
 
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bhp/tonne and kwhr/100miles, or litres/100miles would be my choice enabling quick comparison - battery packs are not made of fresh air.

mpg is rather obsolete when you are buying in litres
 
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What I find odd, is Nasher is proven demonstrably incorrect in every thread he posts in across every sub forum and yet he seems to be completely oblivious to being perpetually wrong.

Boggles the mind.

And to the answer the thread question, our next car will be fully electric. Thankfully we have a driveway, and our use case means 200+ mile round trips happen maybe once a year. So it will work for us. Currently own an A3 outright which we'll most likely run into the ground first though as I'm enjoying not having to pay for a PCP deal currently after we handed one of our cars back.

Ive pointed this out before, hes less reliably correct than of the dogs they get to predict football results, always do the opposite to Nasher, its pretty much guaranteed to be right.

I never had him down for an eco warrior though, desperate to save every milliwatt. Reality is hes not, hes just inconsistent and, well ,,, wrong.

He did give me a laugh though I will give him that.
 
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Looks like HGV's may well be the target of an ICE ban on new vehicles from 2040 (from 2035 for <26 ton HGVs) with overhead power cables being proposed for deployment over sections of the motorway network.

I still prefer my Scalextric style solution ;)

Seriously though, is this a viable solution? It seems to me it would need to be a European standard (at least) for it to be viable and well... we don't play as nicely with our European neighbours since we dropped out of the EU :p

The battery pack sizes in the proposals (I'm sure I saw 80kWh mentioned) seem VERY small to lug 44T around even if the idea is that the bulk of the miles will be done while the batteries are either getting topped up or the electricity is coming direct from the overhead lines. They are talking of having range extenders too so I guess that offsets the battery pack size somewhat but everything would need to be scaled so that it was suited to a fully laden truck going up hill which is going to require some effort to shift!
 
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Looks like HGV's may well be the target of an ICE ban on new vehicles from 2040 (from 2035 for <26 ton HGVs) with overhead power cables being proposed for deployment over sections of the motorway network.

I still prefer my Scalextric style solution ;)

Seriously though, is this a viable solution? It seems to me it would need to be a European standard (at least) for it to be viable and well... we don't play as nicely with our European neighbours since we dropped out of the EU :p

The battery pack sizes in the proposals (I'm sure I saw 80kWh mentioned) seem VERY small to lug 44T around even if the idea is that the bulk of the miles will be done while the batteries are either getting topped up or the electricity is coming direct from the overhead lines. They are talking of having range extenders too so I guess that offsets the battery pack size somewhat but everything would need to be scaled so that it was suited to a fully laden truck going up hill which is going to require some effort to shift!
How will flying cars work with your Scalextric style solution? ;)
 
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bhp/tonne and kwhr/100miles, or litres/100miles would be my choice enabling quick comparison - battery packs are not made of fresh air.

mpg is rather obsolete when you are buying in litres

Do you mean PS/tonne or bhp/ton? Or do you like mixing imperial horsepower with the metric tonne?
 
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