You mean other than when attending Parliament as Mps?
Afghanistan - 20 years on
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You mean other than when attending Parliament as Mps?
Caporegime
Yeah as an armed force who were trying to enforcement some strict religious law over us that would result in stoning, beheadings rape etc
We wouldn't need conscription, people would be right out there with whatever they have to hand
This country was populated by people who like a fight and I don't think that has ever been lost.
And the Afghans don't?!?! It's down to their command structure either falling apart or switching sides. Kind of akin to the French after the allied retreat to the Nazis, it wasn't the men at the pointy end who were at fault.
The Iraqi army fell apart sharpish too. The issue the 'winning side' had afterward was those people went on to form the backbone of insurgent groups or militia. I wonder if we'll see the same happen in areas the traditionally weren't too fond of the Taliban?
Bishops gate?
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Exactly, its like they just want the Talibans heroin money.
I read that a lot of so called gov forces were actually taliban in disguise, don't know how accurate that is but I would make sense.
Soldato
And most likely that a lot just wanted an easy way to earn ok money in a market lacking jobs. When the crunch time came, they didn't want to fight and went for the easier option.
Soldato
China be trolling (RIP Taiwan)
Caporegime
Even the civilians in Syria etc were prepared to rise up if needed and die.
But conversely had assad not been supported by Russia etc it would have been a similar end result there, a country run by jihadis.
Thankfully assad had the army and enough support to endure.
I see we are sending more troops to help with the evacuation.
Wonder what would happen if the taliban start executing civilians while we still have troops on the ground. I doubt they will as I bet they can't believe their luck at the moment, they seem to have taken the city without resistance using a small group of fighters. But it would put the UK / US governments in a very tricky situation if atrocities are carried out while they have enough troops on the ground to stop it.
If the taliban allow flights to continue and don't attack US / UK forces then this could be the way for the least bloodshed (for us anyway) but its tragic for the poor sods left behind. What a shambles
Wonder what would happen if the taliban start executing civilians while we still have troops on the ground. I doubt they will as I bet they can't believe their luck at the moment, they seem to have taken the city without resistance using a small group of fighters. But it would put the UK / US governments in a very tricky situation if atrocities are carried out while they have enough troops on the ground to stop it.
If the taliban allow flights to continue and don't attack US / UK forces then this could be the way for the least bloodshed (for us anyway) but its tragic for the poor sods left behind. What a shambles
Soldato
I see we are sending more troops to help with the evacuation.
Wonder what would happen if the taliban start executing civilians while we still have troops on the ground. I doubt they will as I bet they can't believe their luck at the moment, they seem to have taken the city without resistance using a small group of fighters. But it would put the UK / US governments in a very tricky situation if atrocities are carried out while they have enough troops on the ground to stop it.
If the taliban allow flights to continue and don't attack US / UK forces then this could be the way for the least bloodshed (for us anyway) but its tragic for the poor sods left behind. What a shambles
tin-foil hat on but what if the non Taliban groups commit atrocities and blame the Taliban in order to gain international support to help punish / fight back on the Taliban.
Soldato
I think US/UK forces will just defend the airport until everyone who is going to get out has done, then withdraw. I doubt they would get involved with anything going on outside.I see we are sending more troops to help with the evacuation.
Wonder what would happen if the taliban start executing civilians while we still have troops on the ground. I doubt they will as I bet they can't believe their luck at the moment, they seem to have taken the city without resistance using a small group of fighters. But it would put the UK / US governments in a very tricky situation if atrocities are carried out while they have enough troops on the ground to stop it.
If the taliban allow flights to continue and don't attack US / UK forces then this could be the way for the least bloodshed (for us anyway) but its tragic for the poor sods left behind. What a shambles
Soldato
No they haven't and so again show me where I have defended him. It should be easy right, you've said I defended him so you've read it and can easily quote it.
Ironic
More on that video I posted earlier.
"Seven people have died at the airport in their bid to seek sanctuary abroad, including two people who are believed to have dropped from the sky after falling from a US Air Force C-17 aircraft."
Afghanistan news – live: US forces kill armed men at Kabul airport as UK admits ‘surprise’ at Taliban gains (msn.com)
"Seven people have died at the airport in their bid to seek sanctuary abroad, including two people who are believed to have dropped from the sky after falling from a US Air Force C-17 aircraft."
Afghanistan news – live: US forces kill armed men at Kabul airport as UK admits ‘surprise’ at Taliban gains (msn.com)
Don
They’re saying the Pashtun and the likes that were in the army basically just left their units and went home to their tribal areas. Give it a few weeks and they will start a civil war against the taliban in their areas.
Or had he stepped down a more peaceful transition could have occurred. The radical groups only rose to prominence after a lot of bitter fighting.
Caporegime
Peaceful transition to what?
The area was already awash with jihadis who would have ridden roughshod over the civilians. Don't forget the Al quaeda/terrorists who had come over from Iraq etc as part of the isis push.
Assad holds the army together, without them it would be impossible to completely have stopped isis.
Soldato
You only need to read veterans pages like Funker 530 and see the majority of comments saying this was inevitable the minute the troops left. The Afghan army is a joke, it was never going to hold back the Taliban, lots simply took the pay when it was still getting paid but were ready to join the Taliban the minute they arrived and lets not forget that the Taliban isn't an invading army, its Afghans simply taking back the country from invading armies.