Alder Lake-S leaks

cliffy · 31 Aug 2021 at 14:47

jigger said:
What are running to hit 220watt? I’d imagine that is only while you have the thermal headroom and at the wall?

humbug said:
This is full system load?

That is "CPU Package Power" reported by HWInfo. CPU 100% usage, temp at 74 degrees
142W is maximum AM4 can deliver at stock, things can change drastically when PBO turned on

humbug · 31 Aug 2021 at 15:22

cliffy said:
That is "CPU Package Power" reported by HWInfo. CPU 100% usage, temp at 74 degrees
142W is maximum AM4 can deliver at stock, things can change drastically when PBO turned on

My Package Power in HWInfo is reported as 106 Watts, 4.7Ghz all core 5Ghz single. What are you doing to it? :eek:

cliffy · 31 Aug 2021 at 15:33

humbug said:
My Package Power in HWInfo is reported as 106 Watts, 4.7Ghz all core 5Ghz single. What are you doing to it?

For a start you are running a 5800X (so half the cores) plus you also do not look to have adjusted your EDC, PPT or TDC settings for PBO. Do you have PBO turned on? With PPT you are basically telling the motherboard how much power it can provide to the socket should you have the thermal headroom it will if needed. I have seen other users hitting 270W

EDIT - I ran CPUZ with only 16 threads and scored 10081 which is quite a difference from yours at 16 threads

humbug · 31 Aug 2021 at 16:12

cliffy said:
For a start you are running a 5800X (so half the cores) plus you also do not look to have adjusted your EDC, PPT or TDC settings for PBO. Do you have PBO turned on? With PPT you are basically telling the motherboard how much power it can provide to the socket should you have the thermal headroom it will if needed. I have seen other users hitting 270W

EDIT - I ran CPUZ with only 16 threads and scored 10081 which is quite a difference from yours at 16 threads

PBO is advanced, i have a negative curve optimiser, don't need to touch EDC, PPT or TDC, are you gaining any more performance with PBO? i actually find i gain more by running a negative curve optimiser.

I think 16 threads in your case is 16 cores without HT.

humbug · 31 Aug 2021 at 16:26

What is your all core clock? its only supposed to clock to 4.2Ghz - 4.3Ghz all core to keep with in that 105 Watt TDP, like mine, but because i only have 8 cores it has the room to clock that 400Mhz / 500Mhz higher.

To be frank i just don't think you have that thing set up right, you have extended all the limits of the CPU so it will use them and you're probably burning 4.6 to 4.7Ghz on all those cores, which means its overcloked.

cliffy · 31 Aug 2021 at 16:30

humbug said:
What is your all core clock? its only supposed to clock to 4.2Ghz - 4.3Ghz all core to keep with in that 105 Watt TBP, like mine, but because i only have 8 cores it has the room to clock that 400Mhz / 500Mhz higher.

To be frank i just don't think you have that thing set up right, you have extended all the limits of the CPU so it will use them and you're probably burning 4.6 to 4.7Ghz on all those cores, which means its overcloked.

I am using PBO, all core in CPUz is 4.7Ghz and all of my cores will pass 5Ghz. System is stable temperatures are fine no problems. As i said just fine tuned the PBO settings available to give me maximum performance. Do not think there is anything wrong with the setup but do think you have a lot of unused performance left in your system that you are not utilising

humbug · 31 Aug 2021 at 16:49

cliffy said:
I am using PBO, all core in CPUz is 4.7Ghz and all of my cores will pass 5Ghz. System is stable temperatures are fine no problems. As i said just fine tuned the PBO settings available to give me maximum performance. Do not think there is anything wrong with the setup but do think you have a lot of unused performance left in your system that you are not utilising

No you're right its just overclocked

Well 16 cores at 4.7Ghz, that's a beast you have there.

cliffy · 31 Aug 2021 at 16:52

humbug said:
No you're right its just overclocked

Well 16 cores at 4.7Ghz, that's a beast you have there.

4.7Ghz is in CPUZ on Cinebench R23 it's 4.6Ghz. I Like it

humbug · 31 Aug 2021 at 16:53

cliffy said:
4.7Ghz is in CPUZ on Cinebench R23 it's 4.6Ghz. I Like it

Right.... i bet you like it

pete910 · 31 Aug 2021 at 17:01

humbug said:
What are you doing to it?

You only have half a CPU

@cliffy has a full one !

:cry:

humbug · 31 Aug 2021 at 17:02

pete910 said:
You only have half a CPU

@cliffy has a full one !

Will you #### off!

TNA · 31 Aug 2021 at 18:13

pete910 said:
You only have half a CPU

@cliffy has a full one !

scubes · 31 Aug 2021 at 18:50

Some banter in here

pcuser · 2 Sep 2021 at 15:30

Acording to some leaks Intel is heading for new hights in prices for Alder lake.

scubes · 2 Sep 2021 at 15:56

I wanna see games running on these cpu upgrade itch is starting again for me ..

SmokSmog · 2 Sep 2021 at 15:58

random_matt · 2 Sep 2021 at 16:02

Not far off the 11900k price, seems reasonable dependent on performance.

Jay85 · 2 Sep 2021 at 16:04

What was the pricing for a 9900k on release anyone remember?

Armageus · 2 Sep 2021 at 16:05

Jay85 said:
What was the pricing for a 9900k on release anyone remember?

$479?

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/i...hlighted some fresh,the first time the latter

Jay85 · 2 Sep 2021 at 16:08

Armageus said:
$479?

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/intels-core-i9-9900k-and-i7-9700k-coffee-lake-cpus-have-never-been-cheaper#:~:text=Tom's Hardware highlighted some fresh,the first time the latter

Hmm quite a jump then, i suppose they could argue more cores, more performance for your money but i feel they're trying to match or undercut AMD's pricing.

I wanna upgrade to get the most out of the 3090 but needs to be really worth it, i don't feel like this will be it.