Is a 10 second car considered fast by 2021 standards?

[JediFragger]

How dare you. They are incredible documentaries.

/waves hand

No.

 

[JRS]

Street legal it has no lights!

Swappable front bodywork for racing and street.

There are two front ends for the Camaro. The street version has headlights and blinkers and twin air scoops that feed standard, albeit huge, air filters bolted to the turbos. The race version is the one you see with a flat nose and open intakes to the turbos.

It's not a street car by any means. It's a Pro Mod with a 1969 Camaro VIN made legal to drive on the road and can not only do so but do so reliably for more than just short bursts.

 

[bimbleuk]

Is a 10sec car fast? Sure.

But a 5 second car that's both street legal and actually street driveable is where it's at

Damn I miss Drag Week!

 

[JRS]

Damn I miss Drag Week!

Looking forward to it being back this year

 

[Greebo]

I always thought it was fairly unlikely the cars they drove in the original movie were capable of a 10 second quarter mile....even with the NOS.

They werent

Some outfit managed to get their hands on 6 of the cars from F&F2 and tested them

1993 Toyota Supra Turbo
The Slap Jack ʼ93 Supra has been transmogrified with the replacement of its stock twin-sequential turbos with a GReddy single-turbo system. With a big GReddy T-88 turbocharger crushing the intake tract of the 3.0-liter, DOHC, straight-six, the potential for a stupid-fast Supra is obvious. In the "2 Fast 2 Furious" universe, transportation coordinator Ted Moser says this car comes packing 654 hp and a big chunk 525 lb-ft of torque, which is good enough, in that alternate reality, to thunder the Supra to 60 mph in just 4.5 seconds and through the quarter mile in just 11.9 seconds.

Reality: 14.5 seconds at 94 mph

1999 Nissan Skyline GT-R R34
As one of the two cars driven by too-pretty-for-a-guy hero Officer Brian OʼConner (played by the late Paul Walker), the Skyline, according to transportation coordinator Ted Moser, has 505 hp on tap and a hoarking 444 lb-ft of torque. In that "2F2F" alternate universe, that means this car rockets to 60 mph in just 4.1 seconds, consumes the quarter-mile in 12.1 seconds and has a top speed of 180 mph.

Reality: 14.1 secs and 101mph

1995 Mazda RX-7

Was actually just stock with fake nito buttons

Reality: 14.6 secs and 93.8mph

2000 Honda S2000
The supercharger system for this S2000 uses a Paxton Novi 1000 and is similar (if not the same system) to the Comptech system weʼve driven before. As in the Comptech system the boost levels are pretty low since the 2.0-liter, VTEC engineʼs compression ratio is already pretty high. But in the "2F2F" alternate reality, transportation coordinator Ted Moser says this car makes 360 hp and runs the quarter mile in 13.1 seconds and rockets to 60 mph in 5.3 seconds

Reality : 13.9 seconds at 99.3 mph

2002 Mitsubishi Evo

Stock car

Reality: 15.3s at 88 mph

1969 Yenko Camaro

his Camaro is powered by a 427-cubic inch (7.0-liters to those of us comfortable in the 21st century), iron-block, cam-in-block, overhead valve V-8 making 425 hp

Reality: 13.7 seconds at 106.9 mph

Okay these cars had all put miles on since the film and none of them had nitrous hooked up as they were all fake in the films but even if they had nitrous properly fixed up, would that have knocked 5 seconds off their quarter mile times?

 

[Kenai]

I assume the implication of the above is that the cars like the Supra and Skyline were actually not even close to 650bhp and 505bhp?

Those 'reality' quarter miles times are achievable by a FWD Skoda Octavia - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfpWgHW3tZc - no way a modified Supra or Skyline isn't significantly quicker.

 

[Greebo]

I assume the implication of the above is that the cars like the Supra and Skyline were actually not even close to 650bhp and 505bhp?

Those 'reality' quarter miles times are achievable by a FWD Skoda Octavia - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfpWgHW3tZc - no way a modified Supra or Skyline isn't significantly quicker.

They were the spec as stated in the films but obviously missing the nitrous. On testing they said they both felt tired and will have lost a few horses over the years and probably should have been at least a second quicker when new. The supra had 90000 miles on it when they tested it. Maybe the nitrous would have got them to their their stated 11.9s quarter mile times.

Unfortunately they couldnt get their hands on any of the 10 second cars (none of these were claimed to be 10 second cars in the films, the Supra was meant to be the quickest car tested here.

 

[JRS]

1969 Yenko Camaro

his Camaro is powered by a 427-cubic inch (7.0-liters to those of us comfortable in the 21st century), iron-block, cam-in-block, overhead valve V-8 making 425 hp

Reality: 13.7 seconds at 106.9 mph

I believe the 'Yenko' Camaro used in the film in reality wasn't even nearly Yenko spec - just a (possibly hopped-up) crate 350 SBC and 3spd auto. 13.7 in the 1/4 would certainly suggest a lightly breathed-on small block, because headers and slicks on an otherwise stock 427 Yenko will get you low 12s/high 11s.

 

[JohnStewart]

That 6 second Camaro is very impressive, but I can't imagine it would be easy to drive on the streets. Having said that, there was a similar car (Red Victor - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFO_VsKFjxE) that was fully road legal in the UK and did a 6.4 second 1/4 mile. With 3000+bhp, I hate to think what the fuel costs were for a drive to the shops

In terms of other UK road legal cars that are designed to go around corners quickly as well as in a straight line, Andy Forrest's mental Westfield springs to mind. It does have a valid MOT and he has done some running in miles on the road in it. Skip to about 1 minute in in his FB video to see it lap Knockhill a few weeks ago: https://www.facebook.com/andy.forrest.94/videos/372400000952003/ Again, it's completely impractical as a daily road car though!

 

[Gibbo]

Ten second cars is incredibly hard to achieve generally.
Probably the easiest and cheapest ten second car is an Audi RS3 with a really custom map for both engine and TCU, these then may just creep into ten second bracket.

The cars used in the film, even if had NOS would be struggling to post 12s times, to get an old Supra, Skyline into 10 second territory takes serious horsepower, drag radial (not road legal) and normally fancy torque converters if automatic, if its a manual then more difficult.

In short the biggest single item to move the game on in recent cars is not horsepower but gearboxes with good launch control and extremely fast shifting.

The fact is apart from the odd cheaper hero car like an Audi RS3 DSG, most cars take serious tuning to hit 10's or your talking supercars like Mclaren 720S, Ferrari 458/488, Lamborghini Huracan, New Honda NSX which all feature superb gearboxes, if they had manuals none of those would even hit 10s out the box or extremely unlikely.

10s is extremely fast, bloody quick especially if the terminal speed is 125mph plus.

As a road car though its kind of pointless, horsepower, sub 10s drag times does not necessarily equal fun or make a car awesome to drive.

 

[Six6siX]

Agreed - the main thing that's come with more modern cars is gearbox tech and ability to (more easily) put the power down, 4/AWD, rather than 'just' a hike in power.

I think you either need a good platform that's had a bit of tweaking or you go into supercar territory - so many factors in play though - weight, launch, reaction, surface prep...

 

[Terminal_Boy]

I once managed 11 seconds / 125mph on my old GSX1100 and that felt pretty damn fast. I was much lighter/better looking/daring back then too.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

I live my life a quarter-mile at a time

 

[Diddums]

OP now limiting who can view their profile, can't check it's quidbored but this certainly feels like one of his questions.

Is water still wet in 2021?

Hahaha, imagine limiting your profile

It's definitely Squidward though, just click on his created threads and all will be revealed.

 

[gc123]

Not sure how anyone can change their name to a character in F&F and not expect F&F comments, especially when posting threads regarding a '10 second car'. Surely this is a wind-up?

lets hope hes not gone in 60 seconds

 

[Temujin]

Hahaha, imagine limiting your profile

It's definitely Squidward though, just click on his created threads and all will be revealed.

Ah I bet he'll scramble to try and cover those tracks also soon!

 

[Temujin]

How dare you. They are incredible documentaries.

Err, you mean Rom-Com surely?

 

[Simon]

Don’t forgot the F&F cars have the greatest mod. The 30 speed gearboxes

 

[Dominic-Toretto]

Hahaha, imagine limiting your profile

It's definitely Squidward though, just click on his created threads and all will be revealed.

I didn't even know you could limit your profile. Must be a default setting?

 

[Siliconslave]

wasn't there a load of dodgey F&F memes going around the other month that were tracked back as an 'advertising campaign' - is Squidward now a shill for Universal?

Maybe he'll be in Fast 10: Your Seatbelts