Playing CDs in a car without a CD player

[Spleen Sauce]

Not a chance I’d buy a car with Android Auto OS as the car’s main infotainment system. I’m fine with using Android Auto and CarPlay integration but I’d much rather trust a car manufacturer to write the bulk of its software for its own hardware.

 

[jpaul]

The hardware can become generic/robust - leastaways have people complained about the car control functionality as available in AAOS on polestar,
car internal bus communications are standardized.
havent heard of Polestar (or tesla) being hacked, either, so the management of firewalling car control from apps seems good.

it's just the AAOS absence of 3rdparty apps (usb player) despite the API being availible - the AAOS market is just not quorate yet.
I suppose also, what apps, would really be on people wish list for a car ... mobile banking / vpn's /

 

[dlockers]

Not a chance I’d buy a car with Android Auto OS as the car’s main infotainment system. I’m fine with using Android Auto and CarPlay integration but I’d much rather trust a car manufacturer to write the bulk of its software for its own hardware.

Now read that back to yourself slowly..........you're going to trust a car company, i.e. one that specialises in making engines and bolting together bits they've bought from the open market ----- with the software and security?

Versus say, one of the leading tech firms in the world that has software in the pockets of billions of people?

 

[Spleen Sauce]

Now read that back to yourself slowly

Now try for once to not sound so incredibly patronising…

Yes, I’ll choose to trust a car manufacturer to write its own car software, which it’s been doing for many, many years. Would you trust Google to write the software a life support machine?

 

[dlockers]

Now try for once to not sound so incredibly patronising…

Yes, I’ll choose to trust a car manufacturer to write its own car software, which it’s been doing for many, many years. Would you trust Google to write the software a life support machine?

Ironically that's written by Microsoft. Satya Nadella has a terminally ill kid so it's a big passion of his.

Edit: also Google dodge being hacked and people remotely shutting down cars.

 

[Spleen Sauce]

Ironically that's written by Microsoft. Satya Nadella has a terminally ill kid so it's a big passion of his.

Edit: also Google dodge being hacked and people remotely shutting down cars.

You talk some nonsense.

His son has cerebral palsy, and yes he’s donated money to a hospital for paediatric care. They’re not writing software for life support machines.

 

[dlockers]

You talk some nonsense.

His son has cerebral palsy, and yes he’s donated money to a hospital for paediatric care. They’re not writing software for life support machines.

https://news.microsoft.com/2011/05/...lping-power-medical-devices-around-the-globe/

 

[Spleen Sauce]

https://news.microsoft.com/2011/05/...lping-power-medical-devices-around-the-globe/

Yes, fair enough, a load of medical devices run on Windows Embedded, as do lots of manufacturing machinery etc - that’s a bit different to them also writing the software that actually operates those machines that run on that embedded OS.

Windows Embedded has been around for decades, it’s proven. Back to my original point, would you trust Google’s Android OS on those same devices?

 

[dlockers]

Yes, fair enough, a load of medical devices run on Windows Embedded, as do lots of manufacturing machinery etc - that’s a bit different to them also writing the software that actually operates those machines that run on that embedded OS.

Windows Embedded has been around for decades, it’s proven. Back to my original point, would you trust Google’s Android OS on those same devices?

Yes, because they are a literal software development firm versus a firm founded on smelting rocks and hammering steel into acceptable shapes filled with tiny explosions.

 

[jpaul]

Back to my original point, would you trust Google’s Android OS on those same devices?

Not sure that google is running a safety critical real time os on android automotive systems anyway ?
that OS - running in their tablets (I assume) is just configuring other autonomous MCU's - if you rip the tablet out with lane keeping enabled it doesn't run off the road , the music (streaming) just stops.
It would be interesting to know what the mcu fail safes are - some tesla drivers obviously overestimated Tesla self drive software prowess.

e:

Polestar 2 IVI - intel h/w collaboration, apollo lake inside, https://blogs.intel.com/iot/2019/05/07/polestar2/, rather than arm.
interesting paper on Android automotive penetration testing https://www.cse.chalmers.se/~andrei/vehits19.pdf , some interesting ideas on malware - soundblaster.

plot twist - like the tesla, the guy driving the car maybe the *****