Urgently looking for a part for mobile vets van

Mcnumpty2323 · 16 Sep 2021 at 00:22

As in title our local mobile vets are off the road
Meaning a lot of pets can't get treatment
Including a lot of local rescue/charity places

They currently need a Airbag chip ECU 1681055580
However they can use the following numbers
1338160080
1375110080
1393755080
1390298080
1394332080

it’s a Citroën Relay but a Peugeot part
Anyone know somewhere to get hold of one?
Apparently stock is as rare as hen's teeth right now

Thanks

HoneyBadger · 16 Sep 2021 at 07:34

Thought about getting existing one repaired?

Greebo · 16 Sep 2021 at 09:58

Surely the van is usable without it as its only needed to pass the MOT? Or is it due an MOT?

Lots of repair companies with same day turnaround out there, these are going to be your best bet.

Or try your luck with used

https://www.b-parts.com/en/store/products/5609583/ecu-airbags-citroen-jumper-van-01375110080-2006/

Mcnumpty2323 · 16 Sep 2021 at 10:52

HoneyBadger said:
Thought about getting existing one repaired?

Apparently they tried that unsuccessfully

Mcnumpty2323 · 16 Sep 2021 at 10:53

Greebo said:
Surely the van is usable without it as its only needed to pass the MOT? Or is it due an MOT?

Lots of repair companies with same day turnaround out there, these are going to be your best bet.

Or try your luck with used

https://www.b-parts.com/en/store/products/5609583/ecu-airbags-citroen-jumper-van-01375110080-2006/

Must admit I wondered that myself
They didn't say about mot

Greebo · 16 Sep 2021 at 15:56

Mcnumpty2323 said:
Must admit I wondered that myself
They didn't say about mot

Well as far as I know, even with the ecu removed, it only shows a warning light on the dash, it doesnt disable the vehicle from driving and the only issue would be if it had no MOT.

Unless the driver didnt feel safe without and airbag or potential liability issue if the employee had an accident and the company was aware that the van had no working airbags.

sovietspybob · 16 Sep 2021 at 16:45

There's no way i'd be driving a works vehicle around with a known issue with the airbags! Any company with an ounce of sense will keep it off the road until its fixed.

Rroff · 16 Sep 2021 at 16:56

Yeah if it is a work vehicle, assuming a company of any size, no way they'd send an employee out with a known fault like that.

Mcnumpty2323 · 16 Sep 2021 at 17:21

Yeah it's a work vehicle
Though not sure if the 2 vets/owners are
The only ones driving it
It's not a company of any size probably 2 vets
And a vet nurse or 2
If it was a sizeable company yeah could use another vehicle
But it's only mobile surgery they have
Guess they're playing strictly by the book by not driving it
Which is fair enough I guess

Kaeo · 16 Sep 2021 at 20:06

There's a few full units available, but doesn't seem to be any just ECUs.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/392929372919?hash=item5b7c6a6af7:g:r3AAAOSwrgVfUPOu
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293774024132?hash=item44664bddc4:g:W5sAAOSwZrxffz2z

Hmm...there's a couple available from Europe on Ebay

Search for 01394332080

Mcnumpty2323 · 16 Sep 2021 at 20:39

Kaeo said:
There's a few full units available, but doesn't seem to be any just ECUs.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/392929372919?hash=item5b7c6a6af7:g:r3AAAOSwrgVfUPOu
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293774024132?hash=item44664bddc4:g:W5sAAOSwZrxffz2z

Hmm...there's a couple available from Europe on Ebay

Search for 01394332080

Thanks mate will pass those on

Doobedoo · 16 Sep 2021 at 20:39

No doubt they all have personal transport so they can at least use that while they are waiting. Otherwise they charge enough money so surely they can afford a new van or two.

Mcnumpty2323 · 16 Sep 2021 at 21:03

Doobedoo said:
No doubt they all have personal transport so they can at least use that while they are waiting. Otherwise they charge enough money so surely they can afford a new van or two.

It's kind of a mobile surgery so personal transport will only allow
Very limited stuff to be done as don't think they have an actual surgery building
So not just a van it's all the equipment that's custom fitted into it
Even if they have the funds to replace the van
Assuming you could get another identical van
Ripping out and transferring all the equipment would be
A royal PITA

But Yeah vets ain't cheap for sure I can't disagree with you on that
But to be fair to them these ones do a lot of unpaid stuff
For local pet rescue charities

builder22 · 16 Sep 2021 at 21:15

would the ECU not be coded to the engine/chassis no etc anyway?

not sure on that but for a business/matter of urgency I'd be looking to find a recommended mobile diagnostics person in the area to sort it out

Mcnumpty2323 · 16 Sep 2021 at 21:21

builder22 said:
would the ECU not be coded to the engine/chassis no etc anyway?

not sure on that but for a business/matter of urgency I'd be looking to find a recommended mobile diagnostics person in the area to sort it out

Yeah think you need to recode it
They already had diagnostic work done
I guess it's a physical failure of the ECU so diagnosis couldn't fix it
Apparently the world wide chip shortage extends to ECU units too

builder22 · 16 Sep 2021 at 21:51

Mcnumpty2323 said:
guess it's a physical failure of the ECU so diagnosis couldn't fix it

yeah, what I'm saying tho is that if they get a diagnostics guy that deals with and is familiar with this kind of thing then they're more likely to have access to an ECU, either from a scrapped van or a compatible ECU that's been repaired, and be able to code/pair it, finding someone who can do it is prob the hardest part

eg...this company offers a repair for one of the ECU part no's you've listed

https://www.crashdata.co.uk/fiat-01388160080-airbag-module-repair-p/6013.htm

Mcnumpty2323 · 16 Sep 2021 at 22:04

builder22 said:
yeah, what I'm saying tho is that if they get a diagnostics guy that deals with and is familiar with this kind of thing then they're more likely to have access to an ECU, either from a scrapped van or a compatible ECU that's been repaired, and be able to code/pair it, finding someone who can do it is prob the hardest part

eg...this company offers a repair for one of the ECU part no's you've listed

https://www.crashdata.co.uk/fiat-01388160080-airbag-module-repair-p/6013.htm

The diagnostic guy didn't have one and couldn't source one
Or repair it,though no idea if he could do PCB level repairs
And the dealership couldn't source one either
Combination of covid19,Brexit and the chip shortages I guess
They have tagged all the local scrapyards just in case
And contacted the manufacturers head office in the hope
They may want a little publicity by finding them one
Thanks will check that link though am assuming
It's a PCB level repair required

builder22 · 16 Sep 2021 at 22:29

I'm guessing a brand new ECU from the dealership would be funny money if they could find one...4..5X the price of a used or recon

I'd try phoning some local independent garages that deal with commercial vehicles and hope they can put you in contact with someone that can help, also..maybe an auto electrician that deals with commercials would know someone

Gaygle · 17 Sep 2021 at 07:32

builder22 said:
eg...this company offers a repair for one of the ECU part no's you've listed

https://www.crashdata.co.uk/fiat-01388160080-airbag-module-repair-p/6013.htm

This is by far your best option. That company seems to be very familiar with the problem and are most likely to be able to fix it. They also give a 1 day turn around time and charge a fixed fee of £70. Sounds like a no brainer!

Rroff · 17 Sep 2021 at 07:43

builder22 said:
I'm guessing a brand new ECU from the dealership would be funny money if they could find one...4..5X the price of a used or recon

I'd try phoning some local independent garages that deal with commercial vehicles and hope they can put you in contact with someone that can help, also..maybe an auto electrician that deals with commercials would know someone

Dealers are funny price wise - I've had them quote £30 on parts it would cost me £90-100 to source and fit myself or £48 in another case for something which would have cost me £199 to buy online - but conversely £260 for parts I can buy for less than £60, etc. (or one of the recent ones - they wanted £66 to replace windscreen wipers

that just needed cleaning off anyhow - but £19 and an easy 2 minute job to replace myself) so always worth checking.

(And that doesn't include the dealer labour rate).