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Worth upgrading from RTX 3070 FE to an MSI RTX 3070 TI (apparently £529, but 0 stock)?
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I wouldn't bother. You will likely be waiting for months and months or just never get it.
Only realistic chance you have is sign up to part alert telegrams/discords etc/set up alerts for hotukdeals and just pounce on one when in stock.
Nabbing any GPU at RRP is rather tricky at the moment!
at one point they were paying 1020 for the 3070 lol
Yep, I was tempted but decided to keep mine! They dropped to about £500 fairly soon after the peak so are back on the rise.
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Personally no, performance is too close.
Has Overclockers UK sold any RTX 3070 TIs at the MSRP price?
EDIT - Found the listing for one at MSRP here: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...QW8wKfwZJe4-1630794835-0-gqNtZGzNAnujcnBszQd9
Have any been available at this price as of yet?
I have another question too, have any RTX 3080s AIB versions ever been sold for anything like MSRP in 2021?
EDIT - Found the listing for one at MSRP here: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...QW8wKfwZJe4-1630794835-0-gqNtZGzNAnujcnBszQd9
Have any been available at this price as of yet?
I have another question too, have any RTX 3080s AIB versions ever been sold for anything like MSRP in 2021?
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This..^ Prices are going up again.
I can`t see it with supply problems in general also maybe they are building up stock for November / Black Friday
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They're starting production of the Super series soon..
I don't think Nvidia can squeeze anymore performance out of Samsung's 8nm fab. process (look at the power consumption of the 3080 TI and 3090) As far as we know, 5nm EUV isn't ready for use in graphics cards yet. Also, Nvidia is still easily beating AMD on sales, due to AMD struggling to produce RDNA2 cards in large volumes.
So, I think a Super / 3000 series refresh is unlikely to happen this year, AMD would need to bring the pain first. Also, all current generation GPUs are selling extremely easily, basically without any effort from AMD/Nvidia. If anything, I think the main priority for both is boosting production capacity.
Maybe there will be a RTX 3090 Super (a modest improvement, could easily be called a TI), but I think Nvidia would really be scraping the barrel, it would probably run sh** hot and need a mega cooler.
Actually, I think the RTX 3070 TI shows what can currently be achieved, at a reasonable (nominal) TDP of 290w, which will work with most half decent power supplies. I'd expect a RTX 4000 equivalent to be around 30-40% faster (due to 5nm EUV fab. process and some design improvements), at a similar TDP, with more VRAM.
RDNA2 GPUs have a small advantage on power efficiency, but I think this gap will narrow in 2022.
So, I think a Super / 3000 series refresh is unlikely to happen this year, AMD would need to bring the pain first. Also, all current generation GPUs are selling extremely easily, basically without any effort from AMD/Nvidia. If anything, I think the main priority for both is boosting production capacity.
Maybe there will be a RTX 3090 Super (a modest improvement, could easily be called a TI), but I think Nvidia would really be scraping the barrel, it would probably run sh** hot and need a mega cooler.
Actually, I think the RTX 3070 TI shows what can currently be achieved, at a reasonable (nominal) TDP of 290w, which will work with most half decent power supplies. I'd expect a RTX 4000 equivalent to be around 30-40% faster (due to 5nm EUV fab. process and some design improvements), at a similar TDP, with more VRAM.
RDNA2 GPUs have a small advantage on power efficiency, but I think this gap will narrow in 2022.
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The sooner they go back to TSMC the better There is to much variability in the Samsung Silicon.
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I don't know, Ampere has been Nvidia's best and most successful product launch with record revenues and profits to match. As the saying goes don't feel it if it's not broken. I can see Nvidia sticking with Samsung for it's future consumer products for the foreseeable future.
Unbelievable. Makes me want to try and snap up another 3080 Fe just to literally double my money.
Bonkers.
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£££££££££££££££££££££££!
Can you even get another one though? It's like winning the lottery without using a bot, unless you have some method I'm unaware of.
Also, unless they have loosened the rules regarding buying multiple FE graphics cards, buying another one is gonna be difficult, unless you know someone who is willing to buy it for you using their card, address etc.
I'm actually quite worried about the 2nd hand prices for the RTX 3070 FE at CEX, the number of these GPUs must be abysmal. Assuming this is true, the RTX 3070 TI uses GDDR6X VRAM, and is probably in even shorter supply, especially the FE version.
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Is it possible to make a new account on the FE retailer website + use a different internet connection such as a 4G/5G phone? Then input a different address (say a friends house etc) to deliver it to?
Presumably you would need a different payment method also?
I'd guess it would just be easier to get them to buy it for you, assuming all this is true, but easier said than done, given that RTX 3080 FE stock can be gone in seconds.
Presumably you would need a different payment method also?
I'd guess it would just be easier to get them to buy it for you, assuming all this is true, but easier said than done, given that RTX 3080 FE stock can be gone in seconds.
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I'm a genuine gamer trying desperately to get hold of an FE card so I can actually play some games. No wonder they're difficult to get hold of if people ABUSE the "one card per customer rule" to sell for profit 