Would you mind if your place of work had cameras above the Toilets?

Ice Tea · 2 Oct 2021 at 12:36

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-58734467

https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/01/ikea_spycam_scandal/

IKEA has removed hidden security cameras from its warehouse in Peterborough, England, after an employee spotted one in the ceiling void while using the toilet.

Apparently for 'health and safety'

Nasher · 2 Oct 2021 at 12:40

I thought it was illegal to put them in toilets lol

BowdonUK · 2 Oct 2021 at 12:45

Wasn't there a big story about 10 years ago of schools trying to put cameras in the toilets? In the end they had to remove them.

englishpremier · 2 Oct 2021 at 13:07

There's been a big drama in Spain about something similar. Busy festivals, not enough public toilets led to some women peeing in a street. There were CCTV cameras. The images of them ended up on some porn sites.

The judge said the cameras were in a public place so the videos were not criminal.

Queue the woke brigade and equalities minister saying daft things such as:

"Taking pictures of a woman without her consent and distributing them is sexual violence"

Really? That would mean every time you take a photo in public maybe at a tourist attraction, if there happens to be a women in the background and you distribute that perhaps to friends and family, it would be sexual violence. What about if men are in the image?

It makes no sense. Now if they said uploading images to pornsites or intentionally distributing for sexual pleasure, then it would make more sense.

Joeyuk · 2 Oct 2021 at 13:27

Who the hell thought that was ok. Cameras outside the toilet entrance I can understand but actually inside is just wrong.

Efour · 2 Oct 2021 at 16:00

If my business was undergoing/suffering some mad stealing spree and I reasonably could think about temporarily fitting 1 but ....

That's disturbing.....

Malevolence · 2 Oct 2021 at 17:55

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58747084

Was reading that one yesterday and couldn't help thinking, "Well, don't squat down and **** in the streets then".

godinman · 2 Oct 2021 at 18:45

Malevolence said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58747084

Was reading that one yesterday and couldn't help thinking, "Well, don't squat down and **** in the streets then".

If the facilities aren't adequate then they might not have had a choice. There is no argument that posting videos of people without their consent on to porn sites is okay.

Pawnless Endgame · 2 Oct 2021 at 19:10

I didn't think it was allowed in work toilets, but I read last year during the pandemic, there being a hoo-har that webcams on laptops of people WFH were always on and monitoring. This was so that bosses could check that their staff wasn't making too many cups of tea, and other instances of being absent from their computer.

Ninco! · 2 Oct 2021 at 19:16

Reminds me of one of the warehouse places I worked at during my student years. Staff would lift the ceiling tiles in the loo's and place goods in the rafters and replace the tiles. They would smuggle out the goods later or leave for individuals on another shift to do the deed.

I never witnessed but you could tell what was going on with all the mucky finger prints on the ceiling tiles!

theone8181 · 2 Oct 2021 at 19:43

Pawnless Endgame said:
I didn't think it was allowed in work toilets, but I read last year during the pandemic, there being a hoo-har that webcams on laptops of people WFH were always on and monitoring. This was so that bosses could check that their staff wasn't making too many cups of tea, and other instances of being absent from their computer.

Does seem a bit big brothery. Surely though that meant a manager was just sat pointlessly staring at a screen all day?

Monkeynut · 2 Oct 2021 at 19:52

Pawnless Endgame said:
I didn't think it was allowed in work toilets, but I read last year during the pandemic, there being a hoo-har that webcams on laptops of people WFH were always on and monitoring. This was so that bosses could check that their staff wasn't making too many cups of tea, and other instances of being absent from their computer.

I should be outraged by this but part of me wants to have a dummy webcam driver playing a 1 hour video of me on loop.

builder22 · 2 Oct 2021 at 20:03

Ninco! said:
Reminds me of one of the warehouse places I worked at during my student years. Staff would lift the ceiling tiles in the loo's and place goods in the rafters and replace the tiles. They would smuggle out the goods later or leave for individuals on another shift to do the deed.

I never witnessed but you could tell what was going on with all the mucky finger prints on the ceiling tiles!

haha, was going to post the same thing, happened at a mail/parcel place I used to work too

Tefal · 2 Oct 2021 at 20:34

From the story it says the void above the ceiling.

So presumably they are attached to the hard ceiling above the suspended ceiling filming the black empty void not the room below?

Only reason I can think is they are some relic from before refurbishment or they are there to spy staff members lifiting up ceiling tiles to hide stock for theft later or other objects or cameras?

These cameras in the void must have just been filming the top of the ceiling

The furniture giant said the CCTV had been placed in the void above the ceilings of these areas at the depot in Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, in 2015.

builder22 · 2 Oct 2021 at 20:38

hmm yeah...it says

"In support of our health and safety policy, we have a drugs testing policy in place as per industry standards.

"The installation of the cameras in 2015 was to detect alleged activity that could have resulted in serious injury to co-workers, and to maintain a high level of safety on-site.

"The cameras were only ever intended to film activity in the roof space or corridors."

maybe people stashing drug free **** for tests or something!
or just drugs

Tefal · 2 Oct 2021 at 20:40

godinman said:
If the facilities aren't adequate then they might not have had a choice. There is no argument that posting videos of people without their consent on to porn sites is okay.

I mean in the reverse it being men I can see the video being use to prosecute them for public urination

Captain · 2 Oct 2021 at 21:05

We’ve had new devices installed that stop your phone from getting a data signal while in the toilet, the amount of people who sit on their phone for a good half hour was getting out of hand.

Never known cameras inside toilets but we have one either side of the door so they can check what time you went in and what time you came out.

Tee Hee Johnson · 2 Oct 2021 at 21:47

BUDFORCE · 2 Oct 2021 at 21:52

Captain said:
We’ve had new devices installed that stop your phone from getting a data signal while in the toilet, the amount of people who sit on their phone for a good half hour was getting out of hand.

Never known cameras inside toilets but we have one either side of the door so they can check what time you went in and what time you came out.

Nice, just so you know, that kind of thing will only encourage good staff to leave and the useless ***** stay. There are other ways of getting the most lot of your staff.

Good luck.

Captain · 2 Oct 2021 at 22:15

BUDFORCE said:
Nice, just so you know, that kind of thing will only encourage good staff to leave and the useless ***** stay. There are other ways of getting the most lot of your staff.

Good luck.

I’m not in charge mate, I just work there.