Windows 11 VBS tanks gaming performance?

NZXT30 · 4 Oct 2021 at 11:24

Grim5 said:
Have you tried turning off secure boot? I heard secure boot can lower performance- but it may become harder to not use in the future, for example it will become mandatory having it on to play Valorant and other online games may use things like secure boot as a security feature against hacks.

As much as people will complain about W11 system requirements, game developers can take advantage of the new security features to make it much harder to inject hacks into online games and fewer hackers is a good thing by me. But unfortunately security isn't usually free and it can hit performance

Having less hackers in games is absolutely not worth it. PC is the only remaining personal device that we have full control over.

Psycho Sonny · 4 Oct 2021 at 12:01

NZXT30 said:
Having less hackers in games is absolutely not worth it. PC is the only remaining personal device that we have full control over.

lol. do you even game bro?

THX1138 · 4 Oct 2021 at 13:51

So all that Bull about Windows 11 being faster is just that MS bull.

Phixsator · 4 Oct 2021 at 15:58

Psycho Sonny said:
lol. do you even game bro?

I game, and I really dislike cheaters, but I'm not willing to sacrifice my personal freedom for a weak claim of less cheaters. Cheaters will, just like pirates, find a way around and the regular consumer will be left with a worse experience. If certain developers insist on this approach then I'll play something else.

chroniclard · 4 Oct 2021 at 16:37

Its an OEM feature isnt it? majority of us will have self built PC's so doesnt matter?

I mean I can turn it on if I want.....otherwise it defaults to off.

pete910 · 4 Oct 2021 at 16:48

chroniclard said:
Its an OEM feature isnt it? majority of us will have self built PC's so doesnt matter?

I mean I can turn it on if I want.....otherwise it defaults to off.

Just out of curiosity does it mean if it's an OEM key that its enabled and a retail key will get an option/toggle ?

chroniclard · 4 Oct 2021 at 16:53

pete910 said:
Just out of curiosity does it mean if it's an OEM key that its enabled and a retail key will get an option/toggle ?

Not sure, its all a bit clickbaity for information so far.

I actually just tried to turn it on and I cant because I have some incompatible drivers, I wonder if it will just be turned on for OEM PC manufacturers who are supplying an exact set of hardware and drivers.

Dicehunter · 4 Oct 2021 at 17:18

humbug said:
CPU-Z, lost 20% ST performance in Windows 11. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go1Iffj3asM&t=2318s

I'm not touching it unless they sort the performance out, i'm hearing a lot about performance regression Win 11 vs Win 10, significant performance regression.

Wasn't that with VBS enabled ?

Woodsta888 · 4 Oct 2021 at 18:05

chroniclard said:
Its an OEM feature isnt it? majority of us will have self built PC's so doesnt matter?

I mean I can turn it on if I want.....otherwise it defaults to off.

If you upgrade frm 10 - it doesnt turn on. A fresh install and it's enabled as default.

Hopefully O&O who did Shutup10

will do ****off11

chroniclard · 4 Oct 2021 at 18:20

Woodsta888 said:
If you upgrade frm 10 - it doesnt turn on. A fresh install and it's enabled as default.

Hopefully O&O who did Shutup10

will do ****off11

So just turn it off.

oldestgregg · 4 Oct 2021 at 22:14

Psycho Sonny said:
I've been there done that before with being an early adopter of windows.

A lot of people ran xp for instance even after many newer windows versions were released after as it was still king for a long while in terms of overall package.

I want a 100% stable and proven platform and anyone using a new windows version before the first major service pack or two has been released is simply a beta tester.

Also what benefits do you gain with windows 11 that a normal user would benefit from?

I'm normally the first person to upgrade firmware, bios, etc. But I have learned over many many years that it's best to wait for things to settle down and adopt a much more stable platform.

Just wanted to see what would happen and what it looked like to be honest.

LtMatt · 5 Oct 2021 at 14:08

Windows 11 review: We like it but you shouldn't be upgrading today | PC Gamer

TNA · 5 Oct 2021 at 17:07

LtMatt said:
Windows 11 review: We like it but you shouldn't be upgrading today | PC Gamer

Do what I did. Install it on your laptop or secondary PC if you have one to satisfy your curiosity and wait 6-12 months to install it on your main rig

After having a play about with it today, the only reason I would rush out to install it this year would be if I had a HDR monitor. Nothing else I have seen makes it worth the rush.

bazman25 · 5 Oct 2021 at 18:36

does anyone know how to turn off VBS? when i go into core isolation i get an error saying "page unavailable" so there is no on-off option for Memory Integrity?

Grim5 · 5 Oct 2021 at 19:56

LtMatt said:
Windows 11 review: We like it but you shouldn't be upgrading today | PC Gamer

best part from that review: windows 11 improved gaming performance by 5% for them

rumple9 · 6 Oct 2021 at 02:41

just installed it tonight and graphics look much better in every game I've played

humbug · 6 Oct 2021 at 02:55

rumple9 said:
just installed it tonight and graphics look much better in every game I've played

Really?

Grim5 · 6 Oct 2021 at 03:20

humbug said:
Really?

Must be cause he has AutoHDR turned on, perhaps AutoHDR is enabled by default in W11

Scania · 6 Oct 2021 at 08:15

I’m very tempted as I use an HDR tv as a monitor but, I’m still rocking my 4790K which is officially unsupported so despite being able to workaround install it, I’m expecting hassle down the line…..

mingey · 6 Oct 2021 at 10:41

Meh lets see what the HDR fuss is and guinea pig it, have a secondary monitor 55 OLED for sit back gaming with a controller etc, plus if it goes **** up its a good excuse for a clean install.