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Further to my query above I see in Apple’s FAQ’s that they will authorise a card immediately then charge when items are ready to ship. I really should have read that before posting 
Poll: *** The official 2021 14" and 16" Macbook Pro thread (it has an SD slot and everything!) ***
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What software are you guys needing the power of this new M1 pro/max cpu to run ?
As it a bit to powerful & expensive just to be used for watching Youtube & internet surfing
Nothing really taxing but I find that my current 2019 Macbook Air is a bit laggy multitasking when running multiple apps connected to my external ultrawide monitor. I could probably get by with the stock M1 to be honest but it's not a huge leap to the Pro by the time you spec the Air with 16Gb/512Gb!
I use it for my work most days so happy to justify spending an extra to get the 14" Pro instead as it's a much better featured laptop than the Air M1 (better display, cooling, more ports, SDcard slot,etc).
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A do a lot of CAD with Fusion 360 and Blender. A lot of editing meshes with Meshmixer after scanning. It's very taxing on both CPU and GPU. Less so on RAM. Hence going for the base 16" which has the top M1 Pro but only 16GB which is fine for me. To be fair, all things being equal I probably should have gone for a 32GB model but they come with 1TB SSD which I didn't need. To do it with the 512GB SSD would have been a custom order and thus several weeks further out.
I have 14 days to return it if I find that 16GB isn't enough though.
What software are you guys needing the power of this new M1 pro/max cpu to run ?
As it a bit to powerful & expensive just to be used for watching Youtube & internet surfing
A do a lot of CAD with Fusion 360 and Blender. A lot of editing meshes with Meshmixer after scanning. It's very taxing on both CPU and GPU. Less so on RAM. Hence going for the base 16" which has the top M1 Pro but only 16GB which is fine for me. To be fair, all things being equal I probably should have gone for a 32GB model but they come with 1TB SSD which I didn't need. To do it with the 512GB SSD would have been a custom order and thus several weeks further out.
I have 14 days to return it if I find that 16GB isn't enough though.
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Base 16” ordered.
If y’all don’t hear from me over the next couple of days it means the Mrs has found out
If y’all don’t hear from me over the next couple of days it means the Mrs has found out
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Base 16” ordered.
If y’all don’t hear from me over the next couple of days it means the Mrs has found out
I’ve added it to my basket as well, I’m so tempted. I don’t even need it. My 2014 MBP still does everything I need and I find myself using my M1 iPad 99% of the time now.
I looked into this a bit more - stuff I’ve ordered myself cleared my card within a few days. Stuff through my business account was charged a few days before despatch.
Ah ok nice. Guess apple couldn't use that in their press shots for fear of being accused of trying to hide the notch, but at least it can be hidden.
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They did exactly this - in their event video at least when they mentioned the new display wraps around the camera ...."and it looks great in dark mode"...
It was a little on the nose.
Thanks for these replies
I work predominantly in the Adobe Creative Suite (Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator, and Lightroom, with a little bit of Premiere and After Effects).
Even with maxed-out specs, I always think a little bit more power would be beneficial. Especially when you have a number of large PSDs open, plus web browser(s) with lots of tabs, Skype/Teams/Zoom, Spotify running etc.
Also, my last couple of machines have lasted six/seven years, so it's not just about what it can handle now, it's making sure it's future proof for a decent chunk of time.
As it's the machine that allows me to work, it's an investment more than a casual purchase. Maxing out the 16" MBP (with 1TB HDD) + Applecare is £4k, which sounds a lot, but spread over five years that's only £67/month — which is a couple of hours work.
My Man Maths is trying to convince me that this is a good idea.
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I work predominantly in the Adobe Creative Suite (Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator, and Lightroom, with a little bit of Premiere and After Effects).
Even with maxed-out specs, I always think a little bit more power would be beneficial. Especially when you have a number of large PSDs open, plus web browser(s) with lots of tabs, Skype/Teams/Zoom, Spotify running etc.
Also, my last couple of machines have lasted six/seven years, so it's not just about what it can handle now, it's making sure it's future proof for a decent chunk of time.
As it's the machine that allows me to work, it's an investment more than a casual purchase. Maxing out the 16" MBP (with 1TB HDD) + Applecare is £4k, which sounds a lot, but spread over five years that's only £67/month — which is a couple of hours work.
My Man Maths is trying to convince me that this is a good idea.
this is exactly the right way to think about buying one of these. Time is the real unit of value.
The only thing I’d say is who knows what apple bring out over the next 6 years, but if the improvements look even better once again the resale value will no doubt balance it all out.
Was just looking at pricing of a few MacBooks (with Edu pricing), speccing each to 16GB/512GB:
MBA (8 core/8 core GPU) - £1,304.40
MBP 13 - £1,528.80
MBP 14 (M1 Pro 8 core/14 core GPU) - £1,708.80
It’s not a huge jump (31%/£404) from the MBA to MBP 14. Plenty of extra features, ports, even if the 8-core M1Pro isn’t the full 70% improvement on the normal M1, and I feel it’s a little more flexible for longer term future usage.
In my head I know the MBA would be enough for all my usage, though the gap closes as soon as I get some kind of USB-C hub to get USB-A, SD card slots etc for the MBA with its two USB-C ports
MBA (8 core/8 core GPU) - £1,304.40
MBP 13 - £1,528.80
MBP 14 (M1 Pro 8 core/14 core GPU) - £1,708.80
It’s not a huge jump (31%/£404) from the MBA to MBP 14. Plenty of extra features, ports, even if the 8-core M1Pro isn’t the full 70% improvement on the normal M1, and I feel it’s a little more flexible for longer term future usage.
In my head I know the MBA would be enough for all my usage, though the gap closes as soon as I get some kind of USB-C hub to get USB-A, SD card slots etc for the MBA with its two USB-C ports
Remember that you're also getting 16GB with the base 14" vs 8GB with the Air.
[edit]Just seen that you are speccing both to 16GB, sorry[/edit]
I'd say it depends on how much priority you put on portability. The 14" is a fair bit heavier than the Air or the 13".
[edit]Just seen that you are speccing both to 16GB, sorry[/edit]
I'd say it depends on how much priority you put on portability. The 14" is a fair bit heavier than the Air or the 13".
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Only by 200g - 1.4kg compared to 1.6kg (13 Pro to 14 Pro)
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Is anyone looking to get a permanent protective case on their MBP 16? I want one but not seen any options yet
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The EduStore offerings are up - very tempting prices for those that are eligible.
I think the RAM debate is the most interesting and its worth waiting to see the reviewers benchmarks.
You can always add external storage, RAM nope so....
Curious to see how the unified ram juggles GPU demands with system demands. Yes some will argue better and faster communication on DIE so it can juggle memory more but still many have dedicated VRAM. So if you you have 16, you may already be loosing 4GB or however much the GPU demands...
If you have a Mac already its worth looking at 'Memory Pressure' in activity monitor to get an idea of your usage.
You can always add external storage, RAM nope so....
Curious to see how the unified ram juggles GPU demands with system demands. Yes some will argue better and faster communication on DIE so it can juggle memory more but still many have dedicated VRAM. So if you you have 16, you may already be loosing 4GB or however much the GPU demands...
If you have a Mac already its worth looking at 'Memory Pressure' in activity monitor to get an idea of your usage.
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