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SixTwoSix said:
Like the perfectly timed computer virus exposure and escape into the underground just as a tube train comes along. There is some painfully written convenience in that film.
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Yeah that bit is just shocking. And then just randomly going to Scotland with no backup and weapons because...they'd already planned the setpiece and needed him to be at his family home. And the list of agents that stops being mentioned half way through the film after being core to the plot for the rest of it.
 

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I never rated Skyfall either due to the idea of a scene taking over the plot, I know Bond films you have to go in with expecting some plot stupidity, but not lets go to crappy house in the middle of nowhere for battle with nothing but my nice little car.

Still not as bad as Moonraker and a gazillion Space Corps in a space station the size of Corfu, with Gravity :)
 

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Watched this tonight, I really want to give it a chance and try to like it for what it is but the more I think about it the more I dislike it. While I am not fundamentally against the overall story arc and the ending I just felt the execution failed, there were so many things that just didn't work or were annoying that any sort of tension was removed from the plot. For better or worse the attempted emotional impact of the finale didn't hit home with me because of how overall bad the plot was. Interestingly the stuff that I thought was going to annoy me about the film (based on the trailers) didn't and it was just the overall feeling of "No time to care" that I came away with. I get that this is ultimately a James Bond film but if you attempt to go down a particular route with a narrative them you need to be able to pull it off.
 

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Watched it today, overall I did enjoy it. I didn't really mind the plot and thought some of the action was excellent, especially the stair case scene near the end. It is definitely too long, and I thought some of the acting (surprisingly Rami Malek as Sarfin and Leya Seydoux as Madalene) could have been better.
 

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I enjoyed it and would say it’s second in the Daniel Craig Bond list for me behind Casino Royale.
Safin was very poorly written. Ana de Armas totally upstaged the 00 agent, who was very bland by comparison and had some poor script moments too.

Surprised by the ending as it seems unnecessary considering how the Bond franchise has worked throughout the last 60 ish years.
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Similar thoughts here. Quite surprised how much the Craig era has struggled with its villains; almost all of them have been awful. Safin easily ranks among the worst. And Nomi was utterly pointless.

I didn't mind the finality of the ending though. The Craig era has seen Bond return from retirement a few times. At least this time it's over.

Overall I liked it. The action sequences were excellent. The overarching plot was good (Heracles Mcguffin aside). And it served as a decent ending to the Craig era. Also leaves the studio with something of a clean slate for the next era of Bond.
 

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Watched last night and overall really enjoyed it despite a few weak bits of plot and some bits that didn't feel very 'bond'. The only bit I really hated was the ending. It didn't really make to much of an impact on me though because I simply didn't believe it, brought me right out of the film.

I really enjoyed some of the lighthearted moments, some of the plot, some of the action scenes, and most of the characters & acting.

The film even avoided doing anything too cringy / annoying between James and his replacement imo.
 

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I watched it last night and have mixed opinions. There were a lot of glaring plot holes and I couldn't even understand the motivation for Sarfin wanting to kill most of the world. He was a poor villain. Some of the acting was also very wooden including his. There were a few moments where the editing was a bit jarring and I thought an important part of the scene must have been cut or changed, presumably because there were several different writers. It wasn't a Bond film in the normal sense. But the action pieces were good, there were some excellent nods to previous Bond films (such as the submarine hanger from The Spy Who Loved Me) and I thought it was a good ending to Daniel Craig's era. I'd heard there was an unexpected ending and part way through the film I'd guessed it.

Spoiler tagged even in a spoler thread as this is obviously really significant: Bond's death at the end was very likely a contractural requirement from Craig. He didn't want to play the character again and probably didn't want to end up like Connery coming back for Never Say Never Again, or Roger Moore uzing a zimmer frame in A View To a Kill. Having said that, we didn't actually see a body :)

My daughter, who hasn't watched a Bond film before, and isn't into action films, also watched it with me. She couldn't follow the film at all and asked why such an old man was playing Bond :)

Overall I enjoyed it. I doubt I will watch it a second time soon, unlike Casino Royale. But I enjoyed the action and it was an entertaining few hours. Apart from Casino Royale this run of Bond films has been pretty poor. But I've still enjoyed the action and, for me at least, Daniel Craig is James Bond. He even surpassed Connery as my favourite which I thought would not be possible. But I appreciate he's not everyone's choice.
 

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Intro song was rubbish, really enjoyed the film.

Loved the little throwback scene where he leaped out in a tunnel and fired straight towards the camera, just like in the opening sequence.

stoofa said:
I just wanted to ask if I am the only person who thinks the following about "Bond" in general - because now I'm starting to think I'm the only one looking at it this way :)
So I've always considered "James Bond" as nothing more than a name. That the change in actor isn't just somebody else playing the same person - rather they are playing someone called "James Bond".
You couldn't have an agent in the 60's, 70's, 80's......2020's - it couldn't possibly be "the same man" but it is somebody called "James Bond" who happens to be a spy, who happens to have similar mannerisms, etc.
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No, this is how I've always thought it.
 

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Never liked Craig as bond. He looked to big and stiff as bond.

And was it the previous movie where kills a bad guy and then bangs his wife. Like really?
 

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I'm probably in the minority but he's probably my fav Bond. If anything I think it's been the writing that's let his stint as bond down, QoS sucked and NttD has really been let down by the black holes in the storyline.

I watched it for a second time on Tuesday and I think it may be the last time. Malek ranks up there as one of the worst bond villains ever cast.
 
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