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RTX 3080 FE - Backplate Thermal Pad Mod

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Yeah the ultimate pads are harder but from reddit user reports in between the gelid extreme and the odyssey. Just wish they came in more than 0.5mm and 1mm sizes. Would be interesting to see the results given higher heat transfer abilities, but then also same time is the heat sink going to be able to cope with so much more heat saturation......
I don't know why you think Gelid Ultimate doesn't come in anything other than 0.5 and 1mm.
I actually did a video about a thermal pad mod for the 3080 FE with Gelid Ultimate 2mm on the front and Gelid Extreme 3mm on the back with great results:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3NTHGuNSbY
 
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I don't know why you think Gelid Ultimate doesn't come in anything other than 0.5 and 1mm.
I actually did a video about a thermal pad mod for the 3080 FE with Gelid Ultimate 2mm on the front and Gelid Extreme 3mm on the back with great results:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3NTHGuNSbY

Those are the only sizes I could find in stock by a few retailers, never seen a 2mm in stock anywhere. Noticed you have links from your YouTube video but most out of stock.
How hard were the ultimate compared to the extreme when you did yours?
 
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I've had in hands the Thermalright Odyssey, the Gelid Extreme and the Gelid Ultimate. Those that say that the Ultimate hardness is between the Odyssey and the Extreme are spot-on.
 

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I've bought some Gelid Ultimate and Extreme (two packs of 80x40x3mm, two packs of 80x40x2mm and one pack of Ultimate 120x20x1.5mm) as I build up the courage to redo the pads both topside (rear of card) and underside (GPU side) on my 3080. Given the photos in the aforementioned OcUK thread, I'm wondering if I have enough for full coverage :eek:

@CryptoAtHome I coincidentally saw your video earlier! How you finding temps since doing yours, have they stayed low or are they creeping back up?

I bought quantities based on discussions like this on Reddit which seemed to favour those sizes and thicknesses of Gelid Extreme, here's hoping...
 
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Those are the only sizes I could find in stock by a few retailers, never seen a 2mm in stock anywhere. Noticed you have links from your YouTube video but most out of stock.
How hard were the ultimate compared to the extreme when you did yours?

Get them from China mate. They arrive within 2-3 weeks and at a decent price.
 

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Quick update, used Gelid Extreme 3mm (back) and 2mm (front) and Noctua paste for the GPU.

I think the GPU core is pretty much as good as you'll get it already with any half-decent paste, so grab whatever you have lying around.

I followed the various guides and photos online for placement and disassembly including CryptoAtHome's video. Super easy to do once you learn the tape tricks for the magnetic covers, and you're careful about the tiny ribbon cables.

I just bought the iFixit Essentials toolkit as it has all the Torx bits you need plus a few other useful things.

I kept the stock pads just in case I ever need them again, hopefully never. The iFixit scraper/pryer tool actually came in useful for "snowploughing" the ****** white pads off in one strip as they easily crumble or rip if you try to lift them off with tweezers or fingers.


Once reassembled, very pleased with instantly lower temps for GPU, hotspot and most importantly memory under full load when gaming, RTX and mining. Well worth it.

Not as hard as you might think, with the correct Torx and Phillips screwdrivers, some patience, a bit of organisation, a Stanley knife, ruler and plenty of cups of tea, it's pretty much child's play for anyone who's ever DIYed their own computer...

...Once you get over the fear of disassembling something you will never be able to buy a replacement for due to stock levels and FE purchase restrictions :cry:

Thermal pad mods combined with a gentle undervolt means I'm drawing well over 100 watts less while gaming for the same FPS, and for any RTX or mining workloads the memory is no longer at boiling water temps. Using a base offset of -290 MHz, pegging a peak frequency of ~1860 Mhz at ~862/890 mV gives me a stable, high performance gaming rig using much less power, making less heat and still capable of maxing my 165 fps 2K monitor. Plenty of guides online for setting up and tuning an undervolt with a capped top GPU clock.

I can overclock the memory up to +1000MHz over stock for an Ethash workload and it will only reach around 90-95 celcius, I tend to run +800 Mhz (and -350 MHz GPU core) and get 94-95 MH/sec in nbminer - memory temps much lower than before the mod (110 and thermal capped) - now they sit between 80 and 86 celcius depending how warm the room is, average temp is about 26 soon as I close the window! I very rarely mine though, I bought my card to game :D
 

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Are there any particular guides that you recommend for the pad placement, or simply copy CryptoAtHome's video?

I followed a few things for reference,
CAH's videos - back: https://youtu.be/g3NTHGuNSbY?t=1147 and front: https://youtu.be/g3NTHGuNSbY?t=1293
I also referred to IgorsLab's article and photos because he did some interesting FLIR analysis and his own frontside mods: https://www.igorslab.de/en/simple-p...e-gddr6x-temperature-by-a-whopping-8-degrees/

Other references:
https://imgur.com/sk3GGPf
https://www.overclock.net/threads/possibly-widespread-cooling-issues-on-rtx-3090-fe.1775245/page-2
https://www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/lecwkj/3080_fe_thermal_pad_replacement/
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/j63hcs/my_experience_undervolting_the_3080_fe/
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/com...?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I didn't take a photo of my frontside but I basically followed CAH. Here's the backside with my pads vs stock placement:
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On the stock pads, the thin pad next to my little finger really is thin - 0.5mm or 1mm at most. It's really weedy and looks like it does nothing to improve thermals, despite Nvidia's tacit acknowlegement that there's a hotspot issue there with the VRM caps. I may pop the back lid off again and put some 0.5mm or 1mm there in future, but it seems fine now.

My temps are better mostly thanks to the improved frontside treatment (basically identical to CryptoAtHome's placement). The rear pads help wick away a bit extra heat from frontside modules due to GDDR6 being a flip-chip design.


A key thing to remember is 100% COVERAGE OF THE GPU DIE with thermal paste. The GPU doesn't have the same kind of thermal interface as CPU dies have for heat spreading. Even with thermal protection, if you get a hotspot due to inadequate thermal paste coverage you can run the risk of permanently damaging the GPU core.
Fun video to watch: https://youtu.be/biEoBo8S0Zo?t=204

To avoid egress of runny thermal paste from between the block and GPU die, Nvidia use quite thick paste and cover the whole die, to avoid air pockets and significant temps increase as the paste dries over time. The very easy way to ensure 100% coverage of the GPU die is to use the "X and four dots" technique and be generous with the thermal paste. No need to spread it evenly and thinly, just go nuts and put on loads of paste and pay no mind to it oozing out of the edges. Obviously, don't use conductive paste unless you completely insulate the surrounding micro-components around the GPU core. I used Noctua NT-H2 and temps are not far off Nvidia's OEM paste, which were acceptable to begin with.
 
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@~cw Thanks for the detailed response! Last question, did you leave the original white pads on the back plate? I thought people were completely removing them.

If I do it then I'll use the same pads that you've used, and most likely MX4 for the GPU (which I've seen a few others use for this).
 
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I don't know why you think Gelid Ultimate doesn't come in anything other than 0.5 and 1mm.
I actually did a video about a thermal pad mod for the 3080 FE with Gelid Ultimate 2mm on the front and Gelid Extreme 3mm on the back with great results:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3NTHGuNSbY

Actually watched and book marked your video last night, then found this thread today - pads ordered, will 1 pack of the 2mm be sufficient (you say 1 or 2) - they are hard to find and quite pricey?

I've no qualms about taking the card apart, I've dissembled quite a few phones, my wifes Sony Z5 compact recently, to replace the battery, and it can't be any harder than that - famous last words!

Currently getting 92MH/s, core clock -350, memory +1125 (102c), power limit 67%, I've not changed any voltages - need to look into that.
 
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just wondering what alternative can be used on the backplate 3080FE , if you ever need to remove the gelid extreme from the back PCB it leaves a lot of mess and residue the extreme pads like melt and any tips how to clean off ? , on die side 2mm gelid extreme are fine they can be removed easily as they are mostly on smooth surfaces .. I was wondering can use Gelid 2mm Ultimate for backplate ?

Thanks
 
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No need to do backplate, left mine stock and mem is like 78-80c.

Well If I could go back I wouldnt have but its too late now, As I read about using thicker paste TFX decided to do it again I didnt have any temp issues but was thinking longer term so dont really have any choice still dont know how to fully clean them off which I first need to do was looking for help what other pads I could use for the backplate only will put where the stock pads were
 
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Done mine this morning, back and front, disassembly and assembly was really easy (practice from repairing various phones). Worked perfectly, running the card memory slightly faster on a higher power level(101Mh/s) and my memory temperatures are now at 88 down from 104, GPU is slightly hotter, but suspect that's due to the fans now running slower and extra heat from memory chips.
 
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just wondering what alternative can be used on the backplate 3080FE , if you ever need to remove the gelid extreme from the back PCB it leaves a lot of mess and residue the extreme pads like melt and any tips how to clean off ? , on die side 2mm gelid extreme are fine they can be removed easily as they are mostly on smooth surfaces .. I was wondering can use Gelid 2mm Ultimate for backplate ?

Thanks

Use a toothbrush to clean the Ultimate from the card.
 
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Use a toothbrush to clean the Ultimate from the card.

I was on about the extreme gelid pads, I bought some ultimate to replace them for the back pcb I thought the ultimate wont turn into mush like the extreme

yeah I bought set of esd brushes was thining to dip them in IPA and carefully brush to clean off
 
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