Dad pulled out on traffic cop on M6

[Scania]

I dont think you can hire an artic can you? Or can you?

Seems like a horrible idea.

If you have an operators license (which is mandatory to run a commercial vehicle) then absolutely yes you can hire one, in fact we’ve currently got two hire artics at our place one covering a vehicle in for service and another replacing one that’s damaged and off the road.

 

[mattyg]

Has he decided what to do yet?

Going to run it past his lawyer mate before running it past a motoring lawyer.

My ex mrs was a lawyer and she had a case where her client pulled out from a junction and got T boned by a car with Priority and lost an arm. There was a a bend in the road to the right and the car with priority was doing over 90mph when he hit the brakes. Blame was placed with the car that had priority BUT her client had something like 30% reduction in compensation due to him pulling out when it wasn't safe. Blame on both sides I suspect.

 

[Haggisman]

If you have an operators license (which is mandatory to run a commercial vehicle) then absolutely yes you can hire one, in fact we’ve currently got two hire artics at our place one covering a vehicle in for service and another replacing one that’s damaged and off the road.

Can confirm this is definitely the case - in fact there are companies which specialise in it! As you say though, they will be hot on checking licence details, training etc.

 

[mattyg]

If you have an operators license (which is mandatory to run a commercial vehicle) then absolutely yes you can hire one, in fact we’ve currently got two hire artics at our place one covering a vehicle in for service and another replacing one that’s damaged and off the road.

Can confirm this is definitely the case - in fact there are companies which specialise in it! As you say though, they will be hot on checking licence details, training etc.

Isn't it commercial vehicles over 3.5t

 

[jpaul]

On the v70 video, I did think the unmuted audio track would have contained "Wife said I should go to specsavers, see you on the otherside"

 

[mattyg]

Case Dismissed. Copper didn't even show, After postponing too.

Looks like he didn't show as the poor standards of his driving and the admittance of driving in excess of 100mph without blues on a busy motorway would have been on his record.

 

[bainbridge]

Good outcome, thanks for the update I'd forgotten about this!

 

[Holst1981]

Thanks for the update.

Shame your dad had such a long wait for them to just not turn up in the end.

 

[cjgardens]

Well that went in n a bit.

I'm surprised little offences like that aren't all sorted out with Skype or something.

Turn up at a police station, make a guilt plea (if that's the case) then get your punishment. No need for in and out, in and out and all the carry on they do. It's all just time wasting.

 

["andy"]

I would fight this on principle,but, expect alas to lose.

I'd have Definetly expected to lose. Wouldn't even have surprised me I'd they claimed that they had blues on going from past experiences. Good news for ops dad

 

[Housey]

Result.

Some decent traffic coppers but some utter turds too who like the power trip.

 

[mattyg]

I'd have Definetly expected to lose. Wouldn't even have surprised me I'd they claimed that they had blues on going from past experiences. Good news for ops dad

My Dad asked him why he didn't have his blues on. Got told they were trying to sneak up on someone...... Then 2 other coppers went past going to the same job with blues and twos on...

 

[Scania]

Good outcome, thanks for the update I'd forgotten about this!

Me too! Nice result.

 

[edscdk]

Being honest, did he check his mirror and see nothing anywhere near or check his mirror, see rapidly approaching lights and think "sod him, he's speeding, I'm pulling out anyway"?

I can't imagine they'd have taken issue unless he pulled out right in front of them.

I bet he did look saw the lights and assumed normal speeds so safe manoeuvre.. He did not account for the other car doing (possibly) 60 mph over what you would expect.. Its not like you look in the mirror several time to gauge the speed of the vehicle behind

 

[hurfdurf]

I agree with Minstadave and Gaygle, the officer gave up the chase to pull your Dad - must have been quite serious. Normally they will give you the stare, point the finger etc.

Indeed. Something isn’t adding up at all.

They’ve been given clearance to go 50mphish above the speed limit, without blues on… meaning they are going to a Code 1 immediate job, where the threat to life or safety is high enough to warrant that or a crime of significant seriousness is in progress, and instead they decide to pull your dad over for 3 points driving without due care?

That doesn’t make any sense at all and I imagine there is far more to the story on someone’s side.

Now he’s had his day in court, I’d put in a complaint about the officer online or on 101. Something seriously fishy is going on there. Ask for compo due to court time and stress etc.

 

[Janesy B]

Officer couldn't even be bothered to show face, total cretin.

 

[bazzabear]

Does the officer get any kind of comeback for massive wasting of court time and a years worth of legal time on both sides? I bet that one action has cost thousands of pounds.

 

[Semple]

Case Dismissed. Copper didn't even show, After postponing too.

Looks like he didn't show as the poor standards of his driving and the admittance of driving in excess of 100mph without blues on a busy motorway would have been on his record.

Frankly i'd put in a complaint about this.

Officer couldn't even be bothered to show face, total cretin.

Does the officer get any kind of comeback for massive wasting of court time and a years worth of legal time on both sides? I bet that one action has cost thousands of pounds.

Yep totally agree, it's absurd that a copper can go to that length and not turn up. I would have thought if they make an arrest/dish out a penalty then they would be compelled to turn up at court. By not doing so, they're not doing their job.

@Burnsy2023 is this true?

 

[R.P.L]

Glad to hear this got thrown out. The justification for not having blues on sounds pretty dodgy as well.

At the end of the day if you're going to drive that fast, particularly at night, you need to be aware of the fact that other drivers might not be aware of your closing speed. Something that is no doubt included in the training of a police driver, and is also common sense for any good driver.

 

[Alex_6n2]

Missed this thread originally but seems a reasonable outcome, for what was frankly a bit of an odd NIP. Shame to waste yours and the courts time

Yes you can argue your dad should have double checked his mirrors, but the traffic cop knowingly doing 120 without blues and twos in the dark should be even more aware of the fact that people might pull out on him