BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

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When I click through all the options are either limited in storage or the price says "call us"
This is the point I've been trying to make, everyone I speak to and everything I read suggests to me Google are shelving the unlimited option, even grandfathered accounts.
 
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The pricing is moving to a pooled data model, either 2TB per licensed user or 5TB per licensed user depending on service tier. The Enterprise license has a 'ask us for a quote' option. Buying a single G Suite Business license and storing 20TB of data is ending.

https://support.google.com/a/answer/10411339?hl=en

Again, Team Drives have no storage limit* and that's not changing, the previous 'Drive' option had a 1TB limit that was never enforced, that's ending. The most basic option to enable Team Drives is $12/m as I said above.

*Technically it has item limits in terms of structure and number of items: https://support.google.com/a/answer/7338880?hl=en
 
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Again, Team Drives have no storage limit* and that's not changing, the previous 'Drive' option had a 1TB limit that was never enforced, that's ending. The most basic option to enable Team Drives is $12/m as I said above.

*Technically it has item limits in terms of structure and number of items: https://support.google.com/a/answer/7338880?hl=en
As I said above, it looks as if that is limited to 2TB. How can you get more storage without paying more than £12 a month?
 
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As I said above, it looks as if that is limited to 2TB. How can you get more storage without paying more than £12 a month?

Team Drives have no size limit, you're looking at the per user drive limit which is not a Team Drive. You aren't wrong in what you say, but you aren't reading the 'team' part in what I say, they're different things available on the same account.
 
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Team Drives have no size limit, you're looking at the per user drive limit which is not a Team Drive.

Right, I see that now thanks. Not perfect with some of the limits. I'm just wondering how I could best make use of it given I run a Seedbox at home and already have the hardware. I don't want to be downloading direct to home and then having to upload to Google, so I'd need a rented box somewhere such as Hetzner. I'll have to have a think about how I could stitch something together and whether it's worth the $12 a month plus Hetzner cost.
 
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Anyone here happy with Now Broadband (FTTC)? Their prices are very cheap when you factor in the cashback, and they only lock you into a 12 month contract which is unheard of these days.

One last request before I pull the trigger on a switch to Now.

If anyone here is using Now broadband (VDSL2), would you mind running a ping to bbc.co.uk for a few minutes and pasting the summary here please?
 
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They're the same as Sky so will show similar results.

Thanks. Just found a post of yours with the results :)

I get ~8ms on PlusNet so it seems like the Openreach providers have better routing.

Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.237.254] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.237.254: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=56
Reply from 212.58.237.254: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=56
Reply from 212.58.237.254: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=56
Reply from 212.58.237.254: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 212.58.237.254:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 13ms, Maximum = 14ms, Average = 13ms

C:\Users\Alan>tracert www.bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.237.254]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms SkyRouter.Home [192.168.0.1]
2 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 97e7fedc.skybroadband.com [151.231.254.220]
3 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms be403.pr2.enlba.isp.sky.com [2.120.9.106]
4 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms ae14.prc02.rbsov.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.76]
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 13 ms 14 ms 13 ms ae0.er02.telhc.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.105]
7 15 ms 14 ms 15 ms 132.185.255.148
8 15 ms 15 ms 14 ms 212.58.238.5
9 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms 212.58.237.254

Trace Complete

Sky Superfast 80/20, no DNS changes
 
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Sky use the Openreach network as well lol.

Ping is based on your geography, so you'll likely get the same ping or very close moving to any OR based ISP.

While you are correct in that they use the same path from CPE to cab and exchange, from then on Sky can be pretty different to other FTTC resellers in terms of how they transit data back to the core network, they often won't use OR at all and have a habit of taking data from one exchange to another and then bringing it back to core. Also static pings are relatively pointless, I regularly pull 1.4xx ms from mainland Europe to bbc.co.uk, obviously Friday afternoon is a little busier than usual and i'll have to settle for 1.554 ms average.

--- bbc.co.uk ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 6009ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.534/1.554/1.578/0.032 ms
 
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This leaves me grinning like a cheeky kid every time I see it, something that would used to take 15-20 minutes and causing Youtube to start buffering if playing at the same time, to this :D :D

It's great, isn't it. I wonder how long it'll take you before you take it for granted and want to go even faster. I'm about that point now, six weeks on, where I want double the speed again. :D
 
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Had my Youfibre 1000 installed yesterday.

It like going into another dimension. Downloading games in an hour instead of all day is a revelation.

It's amazing isn't it! Absolute transformation :D

It's great, isn't it. I wonder how long it'll take you before you take it for granted and want to go even faster. I'm about that point now, six weeks on, where I want double the speed again. :D

Hah, not sure on that. I think 500Mb is plenty for me for the time being. Time will tell though :D
 
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This leaves me grinning like a cheeky kid every time I see it, something that would used to take 15-20 minutes and causing Youtube to start buffering if playing at the same time, to this :D :D

I genuinely read this and wondered why you were happy at only using half the connection, then I realised you aren’t on gigabit :D

On the up-side, you have more to come. I get fed up of seeing 100MB/s+ at home as i've got access to remote sites/servers with 10Gb shared, it just makes you see the internet differently, for example suddenly cloud storage isn't really that different to mechanical storage for certain usage cases.
 

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It's great, isn't it. I wonder how long it'll take you before you take it for granted and want to go even faster. I'm about that point now, six weeks on, where I want double the speed again. :D

Imagine having 2GB up and down. Imagine any download/upload you try no matter where and what it took at most 5 seconds.
 
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