12900K Overclock 5400Mhz With MSI Adaptive Voltage and AVX Offset

gerardfraser · 16 Nov 2021 at 22:30

EDIT: Added Ram Dual Rank Gear 1 CL14 4000Mhz For two 12900K with voltages needed for MSI Motherboard

(2 x 16GB) Model F4-4000C17D-32GVKB

Here are my setting on MSI PRO z690-A DDR4 on BIOS (E7D25IMS.114)

Just Primary timings not sub timings
Dual Rank Gear 1 CL14 4000Mhz
SA voltage needed to be greater than 1.45v
DRAM Voltage 1.55v
12900K Batch# V1351636

Here are my setting on MSI PRO z690-A DDR4 on BIOS (E7D25IMS.100)

Just Primary timings not sub timings
Dual Rank Gear 1 CL14 4000Mhz
SA voltage needed to be greater than 1.45v
DRAM Voltage 1.6v
12900K Batch# V1361515

My PC Gaming setting with Offset adaptive voltage and AC line/DC line and LLC. Knocked of some voltage to help CPU temperatures.

Settings used on two 12900k
5400Mhz P-Core
4000Mhz E-core

Keep single threaded performance for high CPU clocks set.
Heavy workloads set to 75°C to drop CPU clock to default settings on 12900K.You can change the 75°C to higher number to keep full default performance on a Cinebench load.

You still have to test your own personal settings.

My BIOS Settings
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Keep single threaded performance on air cooling but can be used on AIO/Full Watercooling for those high CPU clocks.

Video shows all BIOS setting that need to be changed to have high single threaded performance with CPU Voltage Adaptive Mode and AVX offsets for when loads like Cinebench/PC gaming in menus get out of hand with the ridiculous high temperatures from the Intel/AMD CPU's when you like those high CPU clock numbers and need some CPU voltage to get them.

This is on MSI Motherboard and not Asus one that most people seems to show.You have to do your own testing for your setup.

Nothing fancy or difficult to follow,set clocks,voltage your comfortable with.Works the same on Intel/AMD

1.Set Turbo ratio for CPU clock
2.Set Adaptive voltage
3.Turn on C-states
4.Set temps and AVX loads to trigging when your cpu gets to hot,so voltage and temps are lowered

My BIOS Settings
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Video showing how it works

gerardfraser · 18 Nov 2021 at 15:05

Moved to post #1

My PC Gaming setting with Offset adaptive voltage and AC line/DC line and LLC. Knocked of some voltage to help CPU temperatures.

Keep single threaded performance for high CPU clocks set.
Heavy workloads set to 75°C to drop CPU clock to default settings on 12900K.You can change the 75°C to higher number to keep full default performance on a Cinebench load.

You still have to test your own personal settings.

My BIOS Settings
https://postimg.cc/HrMcJCq3
https://postimg.cc/06q6DBxv
https://postimg.cc/06dzf02w
https://postimg.cc/tZBY0R6R
https://postimg.cc/KkGRs3Rs
https://postimg.cc/8fvNPTVx

Vimes · 19 Nov 2021 at 11:06

Well done for what you have managed and thanks for sharing.
Most informative and just goes to show that with what could be termed as a pretty "basic" low tiered priced board you can push a 12900k to an exceedingly good OC with stability. Within the owners thread a video was linked that notes the board you used, it would be pretty hard to ignore its capability and value.

gerardfraser · 19 Nov 2021 at 15:38

Vimes said:
Well done for what you have managed and thanks for sharing.
Most informative and just goes to show that with what could be termed as a pretty "basic" low tiered priced board you can push a 12900k to an exceedingly good OC with stability. Within the owners thread a video was linked that notes the board you used, it would be pretty hard to ignore its capability and value.

Cheapest Motherboard around. Works greatand can handle Dual Rank Gear 1 DDR4 CL14 4000+Mhz that a lot of people are trying to get as of today on the expensive boards.

For Ram on this motherboard and others for anyone interested with Dual Rank Ram going for Gear 1. Also sub timings below not tuned but are fine and stable

CL14 3866Mhz Dual Rank Gear 1 - SA voltage 1.20v
CL14 4000+Mhz Dual Rank Gear 1 - SA voltage 1.40v-1.52v,some may boot below SA 1.4v but I suspect not stable

Vimes · 20 Nov 2021 at 20:00

Did you buy a retail or OEM 12900k.?

Seems to work well for you with a great Overclock.
Air cooling as well, with which cooler.?

gerardfraser · 20 Nov 2021 at 21:29

Retail ,just went to the store and bought all the gear.

I now have received the brackets for Enermax LIQMAX III 360 ARGB,MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R ARGB

The test were done on Air Cooler
NH-U12A chromax.Black

Installed Enermax LIQMAX III 360 ARGB now and same test it cools better than NH-U12A chromax.Black by more than 11°C at defaults settings with which runs at high CPU voltage as expected for Intel to confirm stability on all system.

Comparison if interested for anyone thinking on air cooling this monster hottest CPU I ever owned-The NH-U12A chromax.Black air cooling is 100% fine for my use case. PC Gaming,some video encode,transcoding,editing
Sorry for rambling - TIP DO NOT RUN ON DEFAULT SETTINGS

Vimes · 21 Nov 2021 at 08:48

My 5.1Ghz all core 9900k is a toasty chip and when on air cooling I often noted that some of the cores would throttle. On a 420mm AIO all is well. Then again it depends on your use I suppose, with gaming being typically less demanding than some uses that would stress the CPU very differently.

gerardfraser · 21 Nov 2021 at 16:04

I have a 10850K at 5000Mhz and it a hot chip also like Intel in general.Never notice any throttle ever but that was on AIO 240MM.Maybe I am just lucky getting good chips.
Now AMD hurry up and release something new,I am bored of Intel already.

Vimes · 22 Nov 2021 at 08:26

The only time, on air, my 9900k throttled with the cores was when I ran Cinebench or some other types of stability testing software. Still the cooling is much more reasonable with an AIO.

What have you settled for as your daily overclock settings for the 12900k...?

How could you be bored of such a great performing Intel platform, as the 690 seems to be...?

subbytna · 22 Nov 2021 at 10:00

gerardfraser said:
Retail ,just went to the store and bought all the gear.

I now have received the brackets for Enermax LIQMAX III 360 ARGB,MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R ARGB

The test were done on Air Cooler
NH-U12A chromax.Black

Installed Enermax LIQMAX III 360 ARGB now and same test it cools better than NH-U12A chromax.Black by more than 11°C at defaults settings with which runs at high CPU voltage as expected for Intel to confirm stability on all system.

Comparison if interested for anyone thinking on air cooling this monster hottest CPU I ever owned-The NH-U12A chromax.Black air cooling is 100% fine for my use case. PC Gaming,some video encode,transcoding,editing
Sorry for rambling - TIP DO NOT RUN ON DEFAULT SETTINGS

CPU max went over 100 degrees?

gerardfraser · 22 Nov 2021 at 18:33

subbytna said:
CPU max went over 100 degrees?

Yes,all the 12900K will be the same on air cooling.My 12900K can run up to 5700Mhz even on air cooling for my use case 4K PC Gaming.Post #1 and #2 to see how
TIP DO NOT RUN ON DEFAULT SETTINGS

MartinPrince · 22 Nov 2021 at 19:06

gerardfraser said:
Yes,all the 12900K will be the same on air cooling.My 12900K can run up to 5700Mhz even on air cooling for my use case 4K PC Gaming.Post #1 and #2 to see how
TIP DO NOT RUN ON DEFAULT SETTINGS

Nice share and info again Gerard. How many fans did you have on the Noctua and were they at full speed i e. what RPM were they running at?

Alan McFall · 23 Nov 2021 at 20:23

Very nice, thanks for taking the time.

gerardfraser · 23 Nov 2021 at 22:57

Alan McFall said:
Very nice, thanks for taking the time.

Awesome no problem.

gerardfraser · 9 Dec 2021 at 17:08

Added Ram Dual Rank Gear 1 CL14 4000Mhz For two 12900K with voltages needed for MSI Motherboard for anyone interested

(2 x 16GB) Model F4-4000C17D-32GVKB

Here are my setting on MSI PRO z690-A DDR4 on BIOS (E7D25IMS.114)

Just Primary timings not sub timings
Dual Rank Gear 1 CL14 4000Mhz
SA voltage needed to be greater than 1.45v
DRAM Voltage 1.55v
12900K Batch# V1351636

Here are my setting on MSI PRO z690-A DDR4 on BIOS (E7D25IMS.100)

Just Primary timings not sub timings
Dual Rank Gear 1 CL14 4000Mhz
SA voltage needed to be greater than 1.45v
DRAM Voltage 1.6v
12900K Batch# V1361515

Vimes · 9 Dec 2021 at 17:21

^^^^ Interesting. Never got to see the 114 BIOS. I am using a version of the 1.15 build for my BIOS.
Then again mine has been RMA'd now.

Cyber-Mav · 15 Dec 2021 at 11:00

if you have to use an AVX offset then its not really much of an accomplishment.

Vimes · 15 Dec 2021 at 11:07

Isn't that SA voltage of greater than 1.45v high..?

Born_2_Kill_83 · 16 Dec 2021 at 10:02

Cyber-Mav said:
if you have to use an AVX offset then its not really much of an accomplishment.

Yeah don't see the point, its a fake achievement, if you get 5.4 but have an offset of -4 AVX you've actually got 5, a lot of games and app's use AVX these days.

Drop the offset if your using one and lets see some proper numbers

gerardfraser · 16 Dec 2021 at 20:21

Cyber-Mav said:
if you have to use an AVX offset then its not really much of an accomplishment.

Born_2_Kill_83 said:
Yeah don't see the point, its a fake achievement, if you get 5.4 but have an offset of -4 AVX you've actually got 5, a lot of games and app's use AVX these days.

Drop the offset if your using one and lets see some proper numbers

Interesting lol,I am not sure if you guys are serious or have never used a Intel CPU before.
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