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8 PACK MEMORY RANGE GROWING: SAY HELLO TO 8 PACK RIPPED EDITION & 32GB KITS!!!
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hi there guys,
I wondered if you guys could give me some help. I brought 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz the other day and been having problems running it at 3600Mhz. I have a 3900x, Gigabyte X570 Ultra motherboard, I think BIOS F33.
I bunged the memory in and set XMP and it appeared to be working. However when playing a game, I got a random CTD. So I tried DRAM calculator and entered the values manually;
I then did a memtest86 for 5 hours, after-which no errors.
So straight back into Windows, started a game and CTD, and then a blue-screen of death just after. I did try upping the SOC to v1.1 but didnt seem to have any affect.
So now ive set the memory to 3200Mhz, C14, 14, 14, 14, 28, v1.35. So far seem to be working.
To me it appears the memory is working fine at 3600Mhz but something else is causing a random crash (IF problem?). I did see the other day a WHEA error, I think something to do with processor or something.
I wondered if you guys have any advice? many thanks
I wondered if you guys could give me some help. I brought 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz the other day and been having problems running it at 3600Mhz. I have a 3900x, Gigabyte X570 Ultra motherboard, I think BIOS F33.
I bunged the memory in and set XMP and it appeared to be working. However when playing a game, I got a random CTD. So I tried DRAM calculator and entered the values manually;
I then did a memtest86 for 5 hours, after-which no errors.
So straight back into Windows, started a game and CTD, and then a blue-screen of death just after. I did try upping the SOC to v1.1 but didnt seem to have any affect.
So now ive set the memory to 3200Mhz, C14, 14, 14, 14, 28, v1.35. So far seem to be working.
To me it appears the memory is working fine at 3600Mhz but something else is causing a random crash (IF problem?). I did see the other day a WHEA error, I think something to do with processor or something.
I wondered if you guys have any advice? many thanks
@Roguey000 You would be really unlucky to have problems with a 1800 FCLK but I have heard of it before. Can you post a ZenTimings screenshot?
Well for some reason ZenTimings isnt wanting to run. The program starts then just disappears. Is there another program I can use to show you?
btw, so far, 3200 C14 isnt hasnt crashed... well, yet anyway
Well when checking I noticed a some programs had errors in the Windows event log.
So reluctantly I reinstalled Windows 10 today. After the reinstall, ZenTimings is now working... maybe things are little better? I havnt had much time to 'test' anything, as most of my time has been spent installing stuff (you know how it is).
After installing all the stuff (memory at 3200Mhz), I upped the memory to 3600 C16 (basically selected XMP). No crash of as yet.. yet (not sure if a reinstall will fix that - got my doubts). Anyway, how does this look? all advice is welcomed!
thank-you!
[update: 5th Oct] Looks like the reinstalled must have worked, no signs of crashing yet and its been 5 days now. I guess Windows got something corrupted, which made the memory look like it wasnt working. Im wondering weather to try some higher memory/IF speeds now? or is it not really worth it on a 3900x?
So reluctantly I reinstalled Windows 10 today. After the reinstall, ZenTimings is now working... maybe things are little better? I havnt had much time to 'test' anything, as most of my time has been spent installing stuff (you know how it is).
After installing all the stuff (memory at 3200Mhz), I upped the memory to 3600 C16 (basically selected XMP). No crash of as yet.. yet (not sure if a reinstall will fix that - got my doubts). Anyway, how does this look? all advice is welcomed!
thank-you!
[update: 5th Oct] Looks like the reinstalled must have worked, no signs of crashing yet and its been 5 days now. I guess Windows got something corrupted, which made the memory look like it wasnt working. Im wondering weather to try some higher memory/IF speeds now? or is it not really worth it on a 3900x?
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Good work
You could try upping frequency to 3800 and leaving timings as they are but increasing VDIMM from 1.35 to 1.5V. If it's stable, timings can be lowered, FCLK increased and voltages tweaked.
Tools to help
AIDA64 Cache & Memory benchmark
DRAM Calculator for Ryzen 1.7.3 by 1usmus
ZenTimings
TestMem5 v0.12 (best configs) - load Extreme1@anta777
When benchmarking, close all browser tabs and any programs and close everything you can in system tray. I only have Windows Security and Internet access open.
I've been on these settings with a 5800X for almost a year, daily use and not had a single crash
One thing I found to improve general Windows and gaming performance was keeping the latency as low as possible.
A latest run. Some of the memory read/write speeds are messed up on 5800X due to the BIOS. I should probably update my X570 to the latest BIOS but everything is perfectly stable
Lots of useful information from MrPils. See pages ~47
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...ack-ripped-edition-32gb-kits.18885405/page-47
You could try upping frequency to 3800 and leaving timings as they are but increasing VDIMM from 1.35 to 1.5V. If it's stable, timings can be lowered, FCLK increased and voltages tweaked.
Tools to help
AIDA64 Cache & Memory benchmark
DRAM Calculator for Ryzen 1.7.3 by 1usmus
ZenTimings
TestMem5 v0.12 (best configs) - load Extreme1@anta777
When benchmarking, close all browser tabs and any programs and close everything you can in system tray. I only have Windows Security and Internet access open.
I've been on these settings with a 5800X for almost a year, daily use and not had a single crash
One thing I found to improve general Windows and gaming performance was keeping the latency as low as possible.
A latest run. Some of the memory read/write speeds are messed up on 5800X due to the BIOS. I should probably update my X570 to the latest BIOS but everything is perfectly stable
Lots of useful information from MrPils. See pages ~47
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...ack-ripped-edition-32gb-kits.18885405/page-47
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In case anyone doesn't know, great sales on RAM. 3600 32GB kit can be had for £158.99: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...00c16-3600mhz-dual-channel-kit-my-002-8p.html
If you are in the market for 32GB of DDR4 no reason to not buy now. I know technically the Crucial kit is £128.99 but to guarantee dual rank for £30 plus slightly better XMP timings seems worth it.
If you are in the market for 32GB of DDR4 no reason to not buy now. I know technically the Crucial kit is £128.99 but to guarantee dual rank for £30 plus slightly better XMP timings seems worth it.
Sure this is the best price yet for 32GB 8-Pack DDR4.
What's more important to you... 8 pack DDR5 kit or kidney?
How come in the screenshots / benchmarks i've seen, the DDR5 kits have almost double the latency of good DDR4 kits that run 3600 / 3800?
Doesnt latency matter as much with DDR5 or something?
Not an expert but I think the CPU architecture/IPC means more than latency. If we take Zen 2 to Zen 3 sure the latency was slightly lowered but it was the IPC that showed the improvement. Then you had people with bleeding edge oc Zen 2 (high 50ns) lose to bog standard RAM Zen 3 (70ns).
When Zen 4 comes out with how AMD design chips, it will likely have even higher latency than Intel's current DDR5 implementation but the IPC improvement will completely mask that.
Makes sense. By that theory then, something like DRAM calculator for Ryzen set on MEMbench mode easy DDR5 may complete in 50 seconds instead of DDR4s 100, even if the latency is double.
That would equate to games, programs and general desktop use being double the speed (despite the latency increase)
I can't find any benchmarks for DDR5 that show increased latency but tests completing faster. The only ones really are AIDA where read/write/copy is way higher along with latency being higher
My 8pack 3600's at 3800 16/16/16/36 1T will they do it at C15 or less?
Possibly, give it a try... but make sure you stability test. Your background appears similar to mine too
This is running 1.5V
Had them at 1.5V for over a year. 25c and cool to the touch currently
No issues at all (but no doubt other sticks will clock differently - better and worse)
Run TestMem5 v0.12 and Extreme1@anta777 config to properly test
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People freak out over 1.5 volts but it’s not thaaat high.
1.6 might be a bit much but call me crazy when you set it to 2.0z
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Can anyone confirm if this RAM can do 3600 CL14?
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Oooh, tempting.
Im working towards access to the second hand forum as I’d like to pick up a few kits second hand.