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I've used a clay mitt gently a couple of times on my car now and never machine polished. Not caused any issues that I can see.
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I've used a clay mitt gently a couple of times on my car now and never machine polished. Not caused any issues that I can see.
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very interesting this , certainly food for thought, and i think he's absolutely right
Caporegime
I've noticed this a lot recently. Especially in combination with a heated screen it's a bit annoying.
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Tried out Gyeon Wet Coat today, though it was stupidly cold....when I started the water was freezing on the windscreen. 
Luckily the sun came out and wasn't as bad.
You clean the car as usual, no need to dry, spray it on a wet panel, pressure wash off. Works really well, quick to use and gives a fairly good gloss/hydrophobic coating.
Luckily the sun came out and wasn't as bad.You clean the car as usual, no need to dry, spray it on a wet panel, pressure wash off. Works really well, quick to use and gives a fairly good gloss/hydrophobic coating.
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My paint seems pretty well protected at the moment with a thick layer of grime.
Soldato
Some before and after shots.
Duuuuuuurty
Shiny
I assume there’s a real increased risk of fire as to why that ridiculous fire extinguisher is present?
Soldato
u ok hun?
Glad it was just me thinking that. Calling my stuff ridiculous, might need my safe space if this carries on.
Soldato
Ok sorry, over reaction. I’m like an older James May, I don’t see the point of all this track stuff when it’s largely irrelevant.
(I’m actually younger!!)
(I’m actually younger!!)
Where I live it's a legal requirement to have one in the car. HeAlTh AnD sAfEtY gOnE mAd!
You don't see the point or you have no experience of why it's useful and hopefully never needed? Let me give you a perspective as someone who is 54 and sought a car with the 'track pack' added.
So why?
Track pack on this car equates to a 4 point harness for both driver and passenger, a rear roll cage and a floor mounted fire extinguisher. New this was a £162,000 car built for road and some track use. It isn't a race car (I have one of those too, much slower and I can't drive it to a track cuz racecar) it is a road car for some track use. Same with a 911 GT3/GT3 RS, 360CS, 430Scud, 458 Spaz, Performante and others I have missed all of which offer a track pack of some form and come with an extinguisher.
I go to the Ring 1 to 2 times a year (when we are not locked down) and on that trip I have to carry an extinguisher by law as I do one some track days. Historically I have dropped one into the boot, far from ideal when on track of course. I also track my cars 3-4 times a year normally. It is common to see cars go pop, occasionally with engine fire. A track day isn't marshalled like a race meeting, so having a route to reduce fire damage is good. Harness is helpful too, so is the cage because again rolling a car though far from common is a risk.
If your driving is based on going from A to B on the road they it is pretty pointless. For many with cars like mine and those listed they will never go near a track so pointless too but I do, which is why I found it a good tick box option and wanted it on my car.
All about perspective.
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To be honest you have to be mega quick with one of them. It’s scary how quick a car can go up.Having said all that….
A few months back I came across a mini on fire on the road. I sat there thinking if only she had a fire extinguisher completely forgetting I had one. DOH! That is a being 54 thing
True and even if you do get it done in 30 seconds it's still likely a write off.
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Soldato
Still remember the Zafira in a carpark that went into run on mode with the diesel consuming turbo oil i assume, eventually set on fire and took out the whole car, roof box and melted various ones around it. Today i still wish i had gone over and tried to force stall it, but a fire extinguisher there would have been useful...
All things considered no harm to life and a Zafira off the road was for the greater good?
All things considered no harm to life and a Zafira off the road was for the greater good?
Soldato
Having done a lot of track work back in the day (205 GTi, 1.6, 1.9, Mi16 and 306 GTi-6) I never felt is necessary to have a FE in the car. More fool me? Perhaps, but on the flip side, none of them ever caught on fire.
So I do get why, but despite that I still don't see the point. In a car that's so expensive, it just feels like you've added a pack to tick a box, and it's there for affect.
If your driving is based on going from A to B on the road they it is pretty pointless. For many with cars like mine and those listed they will never go near a track so pointless too but I do, which is why I found it a good tick box option and wanted it on my car.
All about perspective.
It is indeed, and it's your car, you do what you want! As you say, the majority of these cars won't ever see track work, but I'm pleased yours does and I hope you enjoy every minute of it, and never need to use the FE.
I just prefer comfort as I've got older (42)
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