Foundation - TV Series (2021)
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Caporegime
Hell, its about time.
Tychus wouldn't have waited this long.
Tychus wouldn't have waited this long.
Not a strong finish to the series. Trying to wrap up so much / move the plot on across so many storylines felt like all of it got neglected.
The strongest arc certainly seems to be the Cleons.
And without wanting to sound like a raging racist, it seems nearly every young black female actor in the shows I currently watch are absolutely appalling, and end up playing some emotionally damaged character with exceptionally poor acting skills that really start to grate with the disparity when the other actors in the show get into their stride. Hell even Dawns actor who must be <10 years old portrays his role as a young Cleon better than these 2.
The thought of watching scenes in season 2 with both gaal and savlor as the main two characters is utterly unappealing unless they take some acting lessons in between and really sell the characters.
The strongest arc certainly seems to be the Cleons.
And without wanting to sound like a raging racist, it seems nearly every young black female actor in the shows I currently watch are absolutely appalling, and end up playing some emotionally damaged character with exceptionally poor acting skills that really start to grate with the disparity when the other actors in the show get into their stride. Hell even Dawns actor who must be <10 years old portrays his role as a young Cleon better than these 2.
The thought of watching scenes in season 2 with both gaal and savlor as the main two characters is utterly unappealing unless they take some acting lessons in between and really sell the characters.
Racist
it's like the token black guy in movies of the 90s and 00s
Back when we were all racist and actors like Whoopi Goldberg, Denzel Washington, Wesley Snipes, Laurence Fishbourne, Forest Whitaker, Morgan Freeman, Danny Glover etc didn't exist
strangely there were probably more "big" black actors starring in movies back then than I could name now.....
where's all the mexicans and latinos? is america racist against them?
shouldn't there be a few of them in everything by noware the cleons just white supremacists ?
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Soldato
Lee Pace single-handedly keeping the series on life support.
Soldato
Whilst it could have been a whole lot better, I kind of enjoyed it and stuck with it all of the way through. Lee Pace and Jared Harris both good, some of the others a bit lacking though.
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I got through four episodes, watched the first two, promising, 3rd ep - fell asleep. 4th ep - fell asleep. The next time I'm struggling to drop off I have a go to show.
Caporegime
the book is really short. its 1950s scifi so its pretty whacky. its a kinda strange mix of collapse of the roman empire and cold war politics.
Soldato
It’s a big story arc told over multiple books with multiple characters over multiple centuries. The show is loosely (by the finest of threads) following the basic outline of the series and using plot devices - like the Cleons - to keep the cast much smaller. GoT started off great and then spiralled downhill once they began to and eventually ran out completely of book material to draw from. Foundation has the book material from start to finish, but it’s largely been discarded from the get-go and unfortunately what they’ve come up with in it’s stead is pretty ropey.
Just the latest Hollywood butchering of Asimov’s (grand in scope/scale but often dry to read) work unfortunately.
Caporegime
That ending to ep 10 was quiet possibly the most contrived and most BS of pretty much anything I've ever watched..
As for the other plot lines? Just why? Who cares? They are so drawn out now....
If this manages to make 8 series ill eat my robotic skinsuit.....
Don't forget we moved on 140 odd years now.... EVRYONE is dead... entire cast dead now....
As for the other plot lines? Just why? Who cares? They are so drawn out now....
If this manages to make 8 series ill eat my robotic skinsuit.....
Don't forget we moved on 140 odd years now.... EVRYONE is dead... entire cast dead now....
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That's saying something because one assumes you've watched episodes 1-9 which have some fairly contrived crap in it.
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Not really though, main cast still around hence the changes the Empire.
We’ll have gaal, salvor, Cleons, hari, demerezal going forwards, the rest season 1 were just support. Granted agree the first 2 aren’t the best actors though!
We’ll have gaal, salvor, Cleons, hari, demerezal going forwards, the rest season 1 were just support. Granted agree the first 2 aren’t the best actors though!
Caporegime
yeah on reflection there are a few good scenes. Nothing to do with the actual foundation story, but he really portrays the character in a scary way.
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I enjoyed the series overall. The whole thing has hung on the Cleons plotline. The Foundation and Gayal and Harding plotlines have been a mixed bag. Far too many conveniences in the writing which breaks immersion.