Entry level Alder Lake: i5-12400 review, the new value king

[Cyber-Mav]

if 12400 does sell for 200 quid its gonna be best value setup to get. i suspect come next month amd will do a price cut on all zen3 cpus. probably 50 quid of each sku

 

[jigger]

if 12400 does sell for 200 quid its gonna be best value setup to get. i suspect come next month amd will do a price cut on all zen3 cpus. probably 50 quid of each sku

I don’t think AMD CPU’s will get any reduction passed on to retailers until the low end CPU and GPU supply is resolved.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

time for intel to gain marketshare then. amd playing a risky game, zen4 could go the way phenom2/fx cpus did and then amd will be out of it for 10 more years.

 

[Grim5]

if 12400 does sell for 200 quid its gonna be best value setup to get. i suspect come next month amd will do a price cut on all zen3 cpus. probably 50 quid of each sku

It's already in stock and for sale down under, lots of stock actually

Converted into pounds: the 12400 is 160 pounds and 12400f is 140 pounds. Also available is 12500 at 180 pounds and 12100f at 80 pounds

 

[Journey]

already for sale down under

Converted into pounds: the 12400 is 160 pounds and 12400f is 140 pounds. Also available is 12500 at 180 pounds and 12100f at 80 pounds

They are already for sale here too.. £179 for the 12400f and £199 for the 12400.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

waaa just seen them now in stock too cant believe it. amd's dusted.

 

[Twinz]

waaa just seen them now in stock too cant believe it. amd's dusted.

AMD's CPU's have been going on sale often lately. However, the lowest I have seen the 5600X is $250 and it was an in-store-pickup-only offer that seemed like a loss-leader.

I wonder if AMD has enough margin to compete with AL i5's without taking a loss on each sale.

 

[Grim5]

Everyone is wrong on this (12400 value king)

I don't know why the 12400 series is getting all the hype

the 12500 is where it's at, it's only $10 to $20 more than the 12400 and it has higher clock speed and much faster GPU and it has an encoder and all of that with the same 65w TDP

 

[Cyber-Mav]

Yes i saw that the 12500 is only 10 quid more than the 12400, didnt know the gpu was faster thought it was just the clocks

 

[THX1138]

if you wait a month or two those 12500 will come down to 180.00

 

[Grim5]

Yes i saw that the 12500 is only 10 quid more than the 12400, didnt know the gpu was faster thought it was just the clocks

CPU i5-12400 i5-12500
Price $192 $202
Cores 6/12 6/12
Base clock 2.5 GHz 3.0 GHz
Boost clock 4.4 GHz 4.6 GHz
Cache 18 MB 18 MB
GPU UHD 730 (24 EU) UHD 770 (32 EU)
TDP / Turbo 65W -> 117W 65W -> 117W
Codec Engines 1 2

 

[Cyber-Mav]

ahh better bin too if it can hit higher clocks at same wattage as 12400.

 

[jigger]

If Intel can find a way to force retailers to sell at RRP. 10400 is currently £180

 

[Cyber-Mav]

https://www.techspot.com/news/92893-amd-exploring-adding-ryzen-5000-support-300-series.html

Amd trying to keep people on red side. If 300 series people need to change mobo then all cards are on the table and people will jump to team blue

 

[jigger]

Everyone is wrong on this (12400 value king)

I don't know why the 12400 series is getting all the hype

the 12500 is where it's at, it's only $10 to $20 more than the 12400 and it has higher clock speed and much faster GPU and it has an encoder and all of that with the same 65w TDP

I think the performance will be poor at 65watts. In the review (real) the chip is pulling 150 watts. The beefed up IGP at 32 EU’s might be interesting paired with fast memory though. The UHD 770 could be usefully quick.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

Intel igpu does av1 decode which makes it very useful. Also cooling intels 150w is easier than cooling amds 105w

 

[jigger]

https://www.techspot.com/news/92893-amd-exploring-adding-ryzen-5000-support-300-series.html

Amd trying to keep people on red side. If 300 series people need to change mobo then all cards are on the table and people will jump to team blue

The QVL aspect will be a nightmare. Two of my X370 boards fully support the 5000 series. The iffy part will be what boards can support DDR 3200 and Gen4 PCI-E.

 

[jigger]

Intel igpu does av1 decode which makes it very useful. Also cooling intels 150w is easier than cooling amds 105w

150 watts is 45 more watts than 105 so, no not really.

 

[Joxeon]

I think the performance will be poor at 65watts. In the review (real) the chip is pulling 150 watts. The beefed up IGP at 32 EU’s might be interesting paired with fast memory though. The UHD 770 could be usefully quick.

you sure about that?.

https://www.igorslab.de/en/what-is-...workstation-and-productive-use-really-part-2/

 

[Twinz]

150 watts is 45 more watts than 105 so, no not really.

Comparing actual power draw of one part to TDP of another.

There's also heat density to consider.

The 12900k is turned up to 11 and difficult/expensive to keep cool in full core workloads....but fine for gaming.

The rest of the stack has been doing fine with cooling in general.