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lol, my 939 has got loads in it yeat. Im still run ning my venice 3000 at stock clock. When it starts to shows its age, i will oc it. Then flee bay will come in handy to get someone elses old top of the range 939 to plonk in my mobo.
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1dmf said:I find it funny how current AMD owners are in such a dilema, I myself am upgrading because I have a POS P4 netburst processor, which AMD has been spanking for years!!!
I've come to the 5 year upgrade point and I was going to go AMD, but then came C2D, no contest, i've bought a E6700, i was going to get new Mobo, Ram etc.. anyhow.
wiggy said:I know if i am to buy ddr2 for a new system it wont be for amd, it really bugs me that they just cant get their socket revsion sorted once and for all. Blimey its got more pins than intel but can only support one fabrication of chips. So although intel costs more, at least it will last much longer with a simple bios update! Back to the op, this platform is dead so lets just accept it imo!
22BUK said:I put my socket939 X2 3800 up for sale on an auction site a few days ago and expected to get around £70 for it. With over a day left to go bidding has now reached £112, and over 500 people have viewed it. I guess AMD underestimated the demand for this socket.
Nobody will migrate from 939 to AM2 when Conroe is so good, but a lot of people would have taken the easy upgrade option and just replaced the CP for a faster one.
Biggles 266 said:You want AMD to go bankrupt? Why, so Intel can shaft you and not bother to develop better technology? Competition is only a good thing. Without it we will see a return to the days of slow development and £500 processors.
DDR2 was necessary for AMD because that's what the memory companies were making. DDR was becoming rarer and more expensive, not to mention the fact that it was in as big sizes as it was going to get. If you want 4 GB of RAM on a DDR2 motherboard, that's easy. No big performance hit and not overly expensive. 4 GB on a DDR motherboard? Horrendously expensive and a big performance hit.
Also think about how much in the way of sales enthusiasts who want Socket 939 contribute compared to the sales AMD get from Dell. Dell use DDR2 now, that wasn't going to change.
Yeah, I'd like an upgrade path for Socket 939, but it couldn't happen. I'd also like an upgrade for Socket A, but that couldn't happen either. Technology moves on.
Bottom line is that AMD needed to move to DDR2 RAM, not for performance reasons but for economic and market reasons. AMD didn't make a mistake, your mate is just wrong.
Agree but it was the enthusiasts that helped in a big way to get them where they are in the first place by getting them noticed more in the main stream spreading the word for free, but hey thanks guys but we don't need your help anymore we need to move onto AM2 for DDR2 so for you guys with 939 will not see any benefit so tough luck. it will only appeal to new first time buyers & big corporate needs.allllec said:Just one question, if you had say, £300 to spend on a new mobo/ram/cpu
what would perform better S939 based or AM2 based? just curious... i know its all very subjective but still would like an idea
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also, we must bear in mind that unfortunately enthusiasts are a tiny percentage of amd's custom compared to say someone like Dell, and enthusiasts are probably the majority of people who would stick on 939 and upgrade.. sure so would average users who got a tiny bit of knowledge.. but i doubt its viable for AMD to put more money into R&D, production, sales, support, marketing into 939 considering the majority of their custom is going to be AM2
don't get me wrong id be over the moon if amd turned around and said look at our 2.8ghz, 65nm 60w X2 s939's we can dream cant we