Will a club outside the big 4 ever win the title again?

chesterstu · 17 Feb 2007 at 22:58

Pigeon_Killer said:
Decent manager? If Benitez isn't a decent manager who is?

He is a cup manager. He doesnt understand the dynamics of the prem. He showed that with his Everton are a little club comment

Oakesy2001uk · 17 Feb 2007 at 23:41

chesterstu said:
What planet do you like on? Liverpool are a decent manager and a new squad away from winning the prem

oh dear!

The squad is capable of beating anyone, and it was built on a budget! now with a little money in the mix it is very foolish to rule liverpool out over the next few years. very foolish indeed!

Benitez has shown he is an absolutely world class manager, and up there with the best, is there even such thing as a cup manager! what he did in spain in the league was quite impressive! Managers who are not world class dont win the champions league, or the FA cup. They don't beat the top teams in the world!

Man utd, arsenal liverpool and chelsea are the only teams with a chance of winning the prem in the next 3-5 years at least!

chesterstu · 17 Feb 2007 at 23:47

Oakesy2001uk said:
oh dear!
now with a little money in the mix it is very foolish to rule liverpool out over the next few years. very foolish indeed!

Look at what Gelliete has done with his US teams, you're not getting that much money. On a budget? look at the other teams in the prem, LFC have hardly been on a budget.

Oakesy2001uk said:
not world class dont win the champions league, or the FA cup.

Joe Royal won the FA. Is he a world class manager? TBH, LFC are a cup team.

Oakesy2001uk said:
They don't beat the top teams in the world!

We will revisit that point after the Barca game

Gilly · 18 Feb 2007 at 02:33

Redman said:
Liverpool have about as much chance as us (the beautiful toon army) of winning the premiership in the next few years.

Agreed

wassap · 18 Feb 2007 at 11:52

I cant see anyone outside the top two winning the EPL in the next 5 years, not even arsenal with their wealth of talent.

Liverpool and arsenal, just havent got the consistensy.

rayb74 · 21 Feb 2007 at 19:36

deSade said:
That's funny!

Ok we are bigger !

Anders0n · 22 Feb 2007 at 15:57

chesterstu said:
We will revisit that point after the Barca game

Well?

ojo · 22 Feb 2007 at 21:03

chesterstu said:
We will revisit that point after the Barca game

Okay

abruzz1 · 22 Feb 2007 at 22:52

I don't see any team outside the top four winning the title any time soon. Chelsea's success has short term written all over it, Liverpool don't have the quality I'm afraid, but their record in Europe is one of the best in the league at the minute. I even think Man Utd's success this season has short term written all over it, Arsenal imo are the only team that is really building for the future, the youth in the team will be there for years to come.

WushuMaster · 23 Feb 2007 at 12:28

In the short term there are no teams outside that top four capable of challenging for the title. In the long term though, of course a team outside the top four will win at some point. Times change, and if one of the top four lose a manager and dont replace well, it could open up a place for another team to enter the fold. History tells us that the teams on top can and will fall from the top at some point or another.

Stag · 23 Feb 2007 at 23:20

WushuMaster said:
History tells us that the teams on top can and will fall from the top at some point or another.

I agree but today football is a different kettle of fish to even 15 years ago. Money talks, club loyalty has been shown to be second to the pound in the last 10 years. Nowadays a clubs success is proportional (how much is arguable) to their financial clout. Where as its true that expensive players doesn't guarentee success, with more and more money big clubs can afford to have £10m flops and still be successful.

Outside the current top 4, I can see a group of clubs with ambition and potential that could make the step up. But that will only be sure to happen if one of the big guns falls or we have another Ambramovich situation, ie money no object.

In my somewhat biased opinion Spurs are the current leading club in the nearly men. The league might tell a different story currently but by the end of the season I can see Spurs in the top 6. They have a solid foundation of both infrastructure and quality young players, to compete at the top a new or expanded stadium is a must. The financial side of the investment is not the biggest hurdle, rather the location: redevelop WHL prefered solution but with poor transport links to the stadium any expanision will be crippled.

5 years time, Spurs with a newly developed WHL and Klinsmann at the helm will win the Premiership!