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  1. PrincessFrosty

    10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

    Right, and this is my point, you're deliberately referring to only one thing, which is the upside of such a business model, and you're ignoring the downside. Obviously any sane person is going to consider both things, and not only that but the weight of those things changes with time. It's a big...
  2. PrincessFrosty

    10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

    Of course this is simply not true. The up front cost is a direct limitation to what people can afford to buy. If you subsidize hardware so the upfront cost is less but is spread over a larger amount of time that has implications on your ability to buy hardware. For example with consoles that...
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    10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

    Is anyone here defending the 780 3GB? That was a classic case of the architecture limiting memory configs to multiples of 3 so it was either 3Gb which probably wasn't going to be enough long term, or 6Gb which was probably way too much long term. And it was so close to the line on which route...
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    10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

    It's very relevant if you want to compare hardware because it has a big impact on what you're saying. There's clear benefits and costs involved in that deal for cheap mid tier hardware and you can't just accept the benefits and pretend like the costs associated with them don't exist or aren't...
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    10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

    Er, yes they do. With MS it's basically just custom windows. And with The PS it's a custom Linux distro, they run complied libs with code compiled into dlls. They may not have a file extension of .exe in some cases but that's neither here nor there from a technical perspective. PS ports require...
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    10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

    Well the consoles are sold more or less at cost, the business model is to subsidise the manufacturing/part costs with royalties from game sales and subscriptions over a 6-7 year period, so console gamers have always got more bang for their buck with the hardware. But they're bled dry through...
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    RTX 3*** Super and 4*** cards in 2022

    The prices have generally been due to the supply of the wafers. Which means if they can bring optimisations or other benefits to the super range which essentially having little change in pricing then that's a good thing for people in the market for cards. It won't make availability any better if...
  8. PrincessFrosty

    10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

    Spot on, it's no secret to anyone even remotely technical that console generations do not have fast APUs, they're sharing the same die for CPU and GPU functions and all in all they aren't that fast. Which is when you get technical breakdowns like the guys at Digital Foundry and you look at...
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    Can a game kill a GPU?

    Games can't load the cores like Furmark does, there's no real practical use from what Furmark is doing other than testing the cards. But it's not a binary thing, there's different degrees to which the cores can be loaded depending on what the game is doing. Some instructions you give to the GPU...
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    New World MMO

    Sure, I mean it is just an initial impression video, so fair enough. But he has a list of specific complains most of which do not make sense. The game is different from what he's used to, but that doesn't make it worse, if you want to talk about combat being good or bad for example, you have to...
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    New World MMO

    It's not, it's extremely good. Between the preview and the beta I now have 75 hours of game play. I dabbled in popular MMOs over the years but this is something with enough of a paradigm shift to be refreshing enough to play. It borrows from all the good parts of traditional MMOs while radically...
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    Can a game kill a GPU?

    Yup bottom line is that the developers are not doing anything wrong, if a piece of hardware is not tested well and pushed to the edge of tolerance then all the game is doing is revealing the existing problem, it's not causing it.
  13. PrincessFrosty

    Can a game kill a GPU?

    Yes this absolutely can happen, it's not the fault of the game it's a fault with the video cards being designed and tested around what is commonly expected use, rather than the extremes. Some apps can more perfectly load the GPU than others. Most games even though they might read say 99% GPU...
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    Windows 10 Will Support Game-Boosting DirectStorage Tech After All

    This is really good news. Everything I've seen of Windows 11 makes me wince and I was not looking forward to having to upgrade. I maintain that DirectStorage will be a huge game changer for PC gaming. With PCI-E 4.0 the 4x PCI speeds are upped to nearly 8GB/sec and there's already SSDs with...
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    Nvidia vs ATI (AMD) Showing my age!

    I've used GPUs from 3DFX, Nvidia, ATI and AMD. I dropped any brand loyalty fairly early on and now tend to go with whoever has the best high end solution, most of the time in my opinion that has been Nvidia, ATI/AMD have had some serious wins over the years but generally speaking fall short at...
  16. PrincessFrosty

    10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

    Not 240fps? This is why this is so stupid, the subjectivity is so extreme in its scope, that you can take exceptions and make claims that no card is capable of anything. It's meaningless. This is why I've repeatedly joked about making a Unity asset flip game on steam that has insane...
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    10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

    Well it kinda is, because if I google some 3070 benchmarks and look at performance in a sample of modern AAA games it performs quite nicely at 4k in almost everything. So you have to go to exceptions to claim otherwise. I just looked at Tomsharware 15 game average for a quick average across a...
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    10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

    No, I think he understands that. But despite that taken into account for, if your standard is that exceptions set the rules then no card is 1080p capable much less 4k capable, because there are exceptions where you can push limits of current hardware, on even games that are kind old by today's...
  19. PrincessFrosty

    10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

    This has always bothered me, not just about the 3070 but more generally with this so called standard of what is "4k capable". The simple fact is that games range in their demands from the GPU, from very small to very large, and if you set your standard such that any game with max settings in 4k...
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    Nvidia v RADEON Aging, Future Ray Tracing, FSR, Switch OLED | Lead Game Artist | Broken Silicon 109

    Thinking back to the the PS5 tech talk, the presenter talked about Ray Tracing hardware in the PS5 and what you can do with it, and listed audio as one of the things lower down on the list in terms of performance cost. I don't think you need to cast very many rays to radically improve...
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