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For any audio folk - Pete from [REDACTED] has dawbench results up and it's good news. 3700x performs between 9700k and 9900k, 3900x has some issues but handily beats the 9900k regardless.

Finished it the other night, enjoyed it overall. Didn't love the emphasis on body horror over good old creepy, but they did kick things off with a clip of one of the living dead movies & had an entire discussion about "The Thing" so not sure what I was expecting really. And yeah, sooo many plot...

I had no haribo, but as I can't stand the things I'll consider that a win rather than a snub :)

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Given everything is selling as fast as it shows up, I'd be surprised if it were more than a straightforward cockup somewhere along the supply chain. Conspiracy takes effort, incompetence takes none.

What is it with etailers and haribo? Any shop that started sending out Cadbury buttons with orders would have me as a customer for life.

Eek, that's not good news (re memory prices). Did think we were probably near the bottom price wise but was expecting a few more months before things changed direction. Thx for the heads up.

Ooh, that's good news, might be able to pick up a clearance non-max for fewer notes in due course. From the screenshots the lite bios looks much nicer than the technicolour abomination that went before.

Can't fit a bios into 16MB? MSI should recruit from the demoscene (The code that produces this fits in to 4KB)

Yeah, marketing materials always need a pinch of salt. Either way, >18% extra cash for <10% (probably best case) performance doesn't strike me as a great deal. Have more or less talked myself into getting a 3700x unless audio performance either turns out to be really bad or scales unexpectedly...

Think that's only 7% faster (137 / 128 = 1.07)

The fact you can get a 2TB nvme SSD for ~£250 is nuts. That sort of performance / size was small car territory not long ago.

I wouldn't worry too much about fan failures, they're pretty rare and I'd assume the chipset would just throttle if it got hot.

Does anyone make a pump you can't hear yet? Pump noise is the main thing that's put me off water cooling. That and the cost. And the hassle.

Many people seem to agonise over whether the 100dB of dynamic range in a motherboard's audio DAC is good enough, then pump 40dB of white noise into their room because they've bought a CPU that doubles as a furnace. Low power consumption is great. I'm leaning toward the 3700x at the mo...

Just realised that the 3800x works wonders as an upselling tactic. £100 gap feels like you may as well go for the 12 core, £160 much less so.

What's the methodology? Lower percentile results are by nature going to highlight outliers, so could have just been a bad run if they only do the test once? Could be a synchronisation issue across ccxs, but is a game that old using >12 threads? Interesting anyway, especially as lower percentile...

In terms of frames per pound, almost certainly not. If you value bragging rights then maybe.

Think they appeared then disappeared - were briefly on the front page.

Hah, I'm totally going to refer to training on a dataset as "machine education" from now on.