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http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2009/11/04/amd-phenom-ii-x4-965-be-c3-review/1

Your guessing. Great. I link to a site that does a REAL test on REAL hardware, and you can only disprove it by guessing. :rolleyes: The haven't made wholesale changes to the core on the die shrink, they have made MINOR adjustments. It has not become faster than a GT, but a die...

Cyber-Mav What do you not understand. Nowhere but in your head has it been said the 3870 is better or faster than the GT. Nowhere has it even said it is as good as the GT. Where do you get this from? The review site doesn't say it. I didn't say it. Please explain to me where...

This is for all the people who think it's just a die shrink.. ATI Radeon™ HD 2900 Technology – GPU Specifications 700 million transistors on 80nm HS fabrication process 512-bit 8-channel GDDR3/4 memory interface Ring Bus Memory Controller Fully distributed design with 1024-bit...

Arguments, NO NEVER. There is no reason to ever argue. Ever. Discuss and share opinions yes, discuss the validity of an opinion, Yes. But to outwardly walk into a thread and say This is all crap, you're wrong this is wrong, etc, that is not how people should treat each other. What...

Mainstream? If you were living in Germany this would be the DeFacto mainstream standard website. You don't, probably never bother even glancing at a forum which isn't in english, and if it isn't in english, then by deduction it must be a load of rubbish. Nothing to do with the fact that...

I'm getting ****** because you are accussing me of saying the 3870 is a better card than the 8800GT I have never said that. I am getting ****** because in your world where you are all powerful you can off-handedly dismiss the opinion of one of the BIGGEST and MOST trusted review sites, in...

Have you read a single post i've made? - The answer to that is obviously a resounding no. Particuarly the one where i posted: Stop trolling my thread, read it, make constructive comments and see what happens. Do not try and tell me I am singing and dancing about ATI, I am not. I have...

I guess people don't realise that there is more to a graphics card than the GPU. The actual onboard bus architecture and memory do have a rather big say in the matter too, but hey...

Just would say, it depends on what games you run. but at that res you could get 3850 and it would be great, even an 8600GT would serve a purpose, although it wouldn't be very future proof and would struggle quite drastically with crysis.

He could have an ASROCK Dual sata board like I used to, so he has both available.

Just as people don't seem to be able to read a very important line from the op's post.

Look, you are totally missing the point of this thread. Can I spell it out. I AM NOT SAYING THE 3870 IS BETTER, OR EVEN AS AGOOD AS, THE 8800GT. THE GT PEE'S FROM A GREAT HEIGHT ON THE 3870. WHAT I AM SAYING IS AT 2500x1600 RES WITH 8xAA, THEY ARE FINALLY SORTING OUT THE AA ON THE...

But the whole 2XXX series was dropped because of an inherent problem with it's ability to deal with AA. Thus the design of the board was changed. Also you seem to be confused.... The Ultra beats the 3870 time and again at 8xAA. May I suggest you read the review and this whole thread. I...

I was wondering if any of you here can offer any advice on a new solution for my home studio. I currently have a SB Audigy2 Platinum Ex, which while offering a decent sound, is severely limited in the number of inputs. I'm really looking for something around the 8 I/O range, and must have...

WARNING TONE LEVEL ALARM!!! TONE DROPPING TO CRITICAL STATUS!!! :D

I use a full 64 bit Audio engined Studio setup running anything upto 64 tracks at a time with large numbers of effect and instrument plugins. That's how I get my 4 cores loaded up, also why I had to buy 8GB RAM, kept running out of the stuff with 4GB.

Not what I said at all, so stop flaming and start READING. I said that Now I shall break that down as you are unable to understand it. Once a product beds in ATI are able to make very large consistent improvements over time to their products. While nVidia too make improvements with...

Ahh, some investigation has provided some interesting results and possible reason for it... The 8800GT 512 has a memory bandwidth of only 57GB/s, whereas the 3870 has a memory bandwidth of 72GB/s. When 8xAA is enabled, it becomes too much for the bandwidth of the GT and it dies. This is...

For those of you who doubt the validity of the german benchmarks and the performance of the 8800GT 512mb with 8xAA, look at this.. Quoted from Bit-Tech review, although their tests only go upto 1920x1200 - Link to article this was taken from. It's a well known that the nVidia 8800GT...