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E8860 kaveri on the side

humbug said:
640 SP's, 2GB 128Bit vRam.

Its a 7770.
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I appears to be yeah, but not sure if it is exactly the same or cut down on
the 7770 config of 640:40:16. (cu's, tu's rop's)

My main point is Amd seem to have a lot of 28nm dies lieing around for sale, This 8860 looks to be the 7850m.
The onboard 2gb of gddr5 and claimed tdp of 35w are very attractive features all on an FCBGA package.
Maybe these 7850m's can be be put onto a m-itx board using the pci-e lanes from the apu, and be promoted as an enthusiast apu ie a10 7900k, for example. It seems to be aimed at oems who want to promote or sell a nuc/ little box. I want it under my tv.

It has so much potential, yet i find it's timing very strange and out of place.
 
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Martini1991 said:
Bandwidth though, as Davedree's post, he's alluding to it having its own GDDR5 unless I'm mistaken.

The 7750 in Kaveri's crippled.
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Davedree said:
I appears to be yeah, but not sure if it is exactly the same or cut down on
the 7770 config of 640:40:16. (cu's, tu's rop's)

My main point is Amd seem to have a lot of 28nm dies lieing around for sale, This 8860 looks to be the 7850m.
The onboard 2gb of gddr5 and claimed tdp of 35w are very attractive features all on an FCBGA package.
Maybe these 7850m's can be be put onto a m-itx board using the pci-e lanes from the apu, and be promoted as an enthusiast apu ie a10 7900k, for example. It seems to be aimed at oems who want to promote or sell a nuc/ little box. I want it under my tv.

It has so much potential, yet i find it's timing very strange and out of place.
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What i find really interesting is that this is a 625 / 1125 GDDR5 Radeon 7770 with a 2 Module CPU running at 37 Watts.

AMD has worked hard on getting the power down on GPU's and CPU's, it seems to be paying off, thats a very good power envelope for what it is.

The Excavator APU is rumoured to be a 65 Watt part, 30 watts down from the 95 Watt Kaveri.

The GPU in this E8860 SoC must be running near 7750 performance at what? 25 Watts, maybe a little less?
 
humbug said:
What i find really interesting is that this is a 625 / 1125 GDDR5 Radeon 7770 with a 2 Module CPU running at 37 Watts.

AMD has worked hard on getting the power down on GPU's and CPU's, it seems to be paying off, thats a very good power envelope for what it is.

The Excavator APU is rumoured to be a 65 Watt part, 30 watts down from the 95 Watt Kaveri.

The GPU in this E8860 SoC must be running near 7750 performance at what? 25 Watts, maybe a little less?
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sorry humbug if my thread has confused you, especially my poor grammar,
But the e8860 is just a gpu with gddr5 on board, it's not an apu with cpu cores on it. Not yet anyway.

But graphics power wise yeah I agree 8860 probably close to a desktop stock 7750 gddr5 maybe a little slower but at 35w instead of 55w
 
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Davedree said:
sorry humbug if my thread has confused you, especially my poor grammar,
But the e8860 is just a gpu with gddr5 on board, it's not an apu with cpu cores on it. Not yet anyway.

But graphics power wise yeah I agree 8860 probably close to a desktop stock 7750 gddr5 maybe a little slower but at 35w instead of 55w
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Your grammar is better than mine. :)

Granted.

Right now we are still using December 2011 GCN 1 GPU technology in Discrete GPU's, thats what the 270 and 280 GPU's are, the power efficiency on those is a bit, well, late 2011... literally.

In late 2012 We had what Anand dubbed GCN 1.1, the 7790 / Richland APU / now 260 with a little improved power, perhaps 10%

Late 2013 we got Hawaii / Now Kaveri, based on GCN 1.1 7790 redesigned to make it much smaller, really rather surprisingly small, GCN 1.2?

I think we are due for something with a more upto date power envelope.

Looking at this and Excavator it looks like such a thing may be in the pipe line for late this year or early next, or i hope.
 
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