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10400f (b560) or 5600x (b550) streaming with nvenc

Discussion in 'CPUs' started by beasty6, 10 Oct 2021.

  1. beasty6

    Mobster

    Joined: 22 Nov 2010

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    Location: Kettering

    Hi guys,

    Going to be buying a custom pre built PC and deciding on a CPU for it, I game as well as stream and record at the same time.

    So just wondering if I would see a difference from using a 10400f or a 5600x while streaming but using the nvenc GPU encoder.

    Can anyone shed some light? Thanks
     
  2. The Old School Gamer

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 22 Feb 2019

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    Location: Guernsey

    There isn't too much difference between a 10400F and 5600X (the 5600X is slightly better, but 10400F is cheaper).
    But personally I'd go with a minimum of a 8c/16t CPU if your gaming and streaming.
     
  3. tamzzy

    Capodecina

    Joined: 26 May 2012

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    Would it make much difference if using nvenc to encode?
     
  4. The Old School Gamer

    Wise Guy

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    I mean it should work regardless, I just think it's better to have more cores and threads available when you are multitasking.
     
  5. beasty6

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    So I can go to a 5800x or 11700f, but means moving GPU from 3080 to a 3070ti.

    Still worth doing?
     
  6. The Old School Gamer

    Wise Guy

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    An 5600X and 3080 is a good combo, if that's the choices.
     
  7. Orcvader

    Capodecina

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    Quite a difference between the 3080 and 3070 Ti, I would go with the 5600X setup in that case. For streaming/recording using nvenc anyway 6 cores/12 threads will be enough.
     
  8. beasty6

    Mobster

    Joined: 22 Nov 2010

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    Any reason to get the more expensive 5600x over the 11400f?
     
  9. _Cereal_

    Gangster

    Joined: 23 Oct 2019

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    Would squeeze your budget and go for a 5800x for the extra cores if you are gonna be streaming.
     
  10. jigger

    Capodecina

    Joined: 28 May 2007

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    The 5700G is worth considering. It’s pretty much the 5700X.
     
  11. Orcvader

    Capodecina

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    How big is the price difference between the two? If it's quite big then settling the for 11400F should be fine but the 5600X is the better performer.
     
  12. beasty6

    Mobster

    Joined: 22 Nov 2010

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    Well I've found a deal, 5600x b550 MSI gaming edge and 16gb crucial 3200 for £400, so think I'll do that and hold on for a FE 3070ti, full build we be about £1300
     
  13. thebandit

    Hitman

    Joined: 5 Mar 2009

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    Location: Essex

    Ive just put together a 5600x, B550, 16gb 3600 and 3070ti system, its a good balance I think, performance is great although not tried gaming + streaming yet. I do recall that Intel had issues with stutter when streaming and gaming, probably been resolved now but it was definitely a thing.
     
  14. beasty6

    Mobster

    Joined: 22 Nov 2010

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    I'm literally about to order the same spec.

    Found a good CPU mobo deal, so going to do that and get a 70ti FE card
     
  15. humbug

    Caporegime

    Joined: 17 Mar 2012

    Posts: 39,038

    NO! but if going 3080 get the 5600X it is a significantly faster gaming CPU and the 3080 will need it, but either way the 3080 is always better than the 3070TI.

    Edit: unless you get that good deal on the 3070TI, the 5600X is still worth the difference over the 10400F
     
  16. beasty6

    Mobster

    Joined: 22 Nov 2010

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    I'm going to go for the 5600x system anyway I think, as found a CPU/mobo deal on it, and going to hold out for a 3070ti FE, should be around the £1200-1250 mark all in
     
  17. thebandit

    Hitman

    Joined: 5 Mar 2009

    Posts: 809

    Location: Essex

    If it helps, my full build below, was soo easy to build, easy to get really neat and tidy and everything just worked as it should ( I did Qflash the bios to the latest version before building) very pleased.
    Ryzen 5600x
    Artic Freezer pro II
    Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO-P
    Crucial Ballistix BL2K8G36C16U4B 3600 MHz
    RTX3070ti FE
    Lian Li Lancool 205M
    Corsair RM Series RM750 750W PSU
    WD_BLACK WD Blue SN550 2TB SN750 500GB
    WD Blue SN550 2TB
    120MM Noctua fans
     
  18. _Cereal_

    Gangster

    Joined: 23 Oct 2019

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    3080 FE is absolutely worth the extra money over a 3070TI (talking MSRP prices here and this is obviously assuming you can actually get a 3080, they are the hardest Nvidia FE cards to get)
     
  19. mickyflinn

    Capodecina

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    Did you get that Cpu/mobo bundle ?
     
  20. beasty6

    Mobster

    Joined: 22 Nov 2010

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    Not yet, going to wait until I get a FE card then will order the rest.

    Good deal really, will see if ocuk will do the same deal, all from one place then (other than FE card)