1200 Beats Per Minute - Drumming.

Christo · 17 Dec 2006 at 17:54

VapourTrail said:
What a load of ****. Speed may be impressive but without any other musical ability it counts for nothing. Neil Peart from Rush is a true master of the drums...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV_90V4OeTQ

This link does not really do Neil justice as he always does one of these solos in concert that will actually last for up to 9 minutes.

*yawn* He's just got a big drum set.

raz0rr · 17 Dec 2006 at 18:59

G18241 said:
and it is a good solo

No.
Just no.

Playing sloppy single strokes at a mediocre speed really isn't all that impressive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=563Joj7DoD0 <--Actual creativity at work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygY2c1KNiTs <--Technicality at it's best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpFrexDJ4A <--More technicality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsDzdUEmF-E <-- The man.

skinnyl · 18 Dec 2006 at 18:37

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln6b_nBM-V8

Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta, Steve Gadd

for the win, i love this one

Phalanx · 18 Dec 2006 at 18:46

it's very good, for all the people saying "there's no musicality" you are wrong. The song would not have the desired effect if it were not for the ridiculously fast Double bass pedal and snare drum.

Whether you like the song or not, they are obviously aiming for a very outside manic sound and the drumming really gives emphasis to that

Neoni · 18 Dec 2006 at 20:23

Phalanx said:
it's very good, for all the people saying "there's no musicality" you are wrong. The song would not have the desired effect if it were not for the ridiculously fast Double bass pedal and snare drum.

Whether you like the song or not, they are obviously aiming for a very outside manic sound and the drumming really gives emphasis to that

its incredibly sloppy.

and easy to play.

this is way more impressive within 20 seconds.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6LzONTjvpbs

raz0rr · 18 Dec 2006 at 20:50

Neon said:
its incredibly sloppy.

and easy to play.

Exactly

Neon said:
this is way more impressive within 20 seconds.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6LzONTjvpbs

Shame about the vocals though.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dWxCPqoF3ys
Smooth chops > Sloppy chops (or lack thereof)

Scam · 18 Dec 2006 at 22:02

raz0rr said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpFrexDJ4A <--More technicality

To quote someones comment already up there.. that is sick!! The coolest drumming i've seen in a good while!!!

skinnyl · 18 Dec 2006 at 23:10

Neon said:
its incredibly sloppy.

and easy to play.

you totally have to get in that studio of yours, record something at 1000bpm thats tight(edit: ish) and lasts for at least 3 minutes before you get away with saying that.

I'm completely prepared to eat my words..

Phalanx · 18 Dec 2006 at 23:12

Neon said:
its incredibly sloppy.

and easy to play.

this is way more impressive within 20 seconds.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6LzONTjvpbs

i never said it was easy to play, I said that it fits the sound they are looking for.

Personally, I would find it hard to play my drummer's double bass pedal that fast, but heck, it's easy right?

Neoni · 18 Dec 2006 at 23:14

Phalanx said:
i never said it was easy to play, I said that it fits the sound they are looking for.

Personally, I would find it hard to play my drummer's double bass pedal that fast, but heck, it's easy right?

hes playing doubles, flamming fast. really not hard mate at all.

Neoni · 18 Dec 2006 at 23:16

skinnyl said:
you totally have to get in that studio of yours, record something at 1000bpm thats tight(edit: ish) and lasts for at least 3 minutes before you get away with saying that.

I'm completely prepared to eat my words..

joey isnt playing at 1000bpm, i cant play at 1000bpm.

the first part i agree is fast and is quite hard to pull off, but he gets into this routine of doubling the feet and doesnt get out of it. if anybody hasnt noticed.

SexyGreyFox · 18 Dec 2006 at 23:21

Here we go again -

Music Warriors

Get your entry into there Neon.

Neoni · 18 Dec 2006 at 23:24

dmpoole said:
Here we go again -

Music Warriors

Get your entry into there Neon.

explain to me how im suppose to record drums? live drums. without a camera distorted phone. im saving up for pro tools hardware its not cheap does thee know!

skinnyl · 18 Dec 2006 at 23:25

dmpoole said:
Here we go again -

Music Warriors

Get your entry into there Neon.

what he said.

like it or hate it. just don't say it's easy unless you can prove it.

raz0rr · 18 Dec 2006 at 23:26

skinnyl said:
you totally have to get in that studio of yours, record something at 1000bpm thats tight(edit: ish) and lasts for at least 3 minutes before you get away with saying that.

I'm completely prepared to eat my words..

1000 beats per minute is not the same as 1000 strokes per minute, which is what you are referring to.

In the real world, no one uses strokes per minute, because the drums are a musical instrument and not a means with which athletes (because that's exactly what they are) can 'compete'

On average, given that a person puts work into their drumming, there's nothing he plays in that video that anyone couldn't play after a few years, and better than him, at that.

Nothing in that video except sloppy hand/foot trade-offs.

skinnyl · 18 Dec 2006 at 23:26

Neon said:
explain to me how im suppose to record drums? live drums. without a camera distorted phone. im saving up for pro tools hardware its not cheap does thee know!

2 sm 58s in stereo would be a start.

Neoni · 18 Dec 2006 at 23:27

skinnyl said:
what he said.

like it or hate it. just don't say it's easy unless you can prove it.

if daves about who i know or can say must be a good drummer, and knows his stuff will put his contribution in and say that its sloppy and really not a good solo.

Neoni · 18 Dec 2006 at 23:27

skinnyl said:
2 sm 58s in stereo would be a start.

lmfao... yeh right... i have all the microphones dont worry im on about multiple inputs into an interface or sound card. i dont have the interface or sound card yet.

skinnyl · 18 Dec 2006 at 23:28

raz0rr said:
1000 beats per minute is not the same as 1000 strokes per minute, which is what you are referring to.

In the real world, no one uses strokes per minute, because the drums are a musical instrument and not a means with which athletes (because that's exactly what they are) can 'compete'

On average, given that a person puts work into their drumming, there's nothing he plays in that video that anyone couldn't play after a few years, and better than him, at that.

Nothing in that video except sloppy hand/foot trade-offs.

my bad on the beats strokes thing.

it can't be easy if it takes years to learn though?

sorry, i'm just being argumentative.

Edit: fair dos on the recording thing Neon, but you see my point?

Neoni · 18 Dec 2006 at 23:30

skinnyl said:
my bad on the beats strokes thing.

it can't be easy if it takes years to learn though?

its not the fact it takes years to learn, it takes so long to learn the basics, yes. but once you have the basics its really nothing to complicated. the foot work hes doing half way through is simple.

you can do it sat where you are. tap one foot down and the other straight after like a flam, du-dum!

right then left, or left right depending on how you'd drum, now speed it up. its all hes doing. with hand work over the top.