16:9 dvd's on 24" help please :/

Rofflay

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hi guys duno if this is the right thread but well i couldnt see another section and its really monitor related in a way :)

basically i got my benq 24" and testing it and have a few days left before i make up my mind on weither to keep but playing back dvd's is well bugging me with 16:9 i will explain.

i thought playing a dvd in 1:1 i would have a tiny border at the top and bottom using 1:1 with 1920x1200 res but well all my dvd seems to have a really big border!

seems this is with all my players vlc powerdvd wmp etc ill post a screenie below

http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtfur0.jpg

as u can see with my professionally marked areas in red that would have been the expected size of the black border but as u can see in yellow i have really big ones that are a not as black which is because i havent tweaked brightness yet.

this does not happen with playing back 1080p clips from the microsoft site or other sources just dvd's i cant see why it doesnt almost fill the screen?

this is my first time using widescreen and im really stuck so can u guys help me figure out why its happening? as i said it seems its only playing back dvd's that give the big borders.
 
not sure mate i tried basically standard def lord of the rings extended and gladiator massive borders tho i dont mind that much but its just stupid why a 16:9 movie doesnt fill the entire screen of a 16:9 display?

just for clarity the lotr was 2:35:1 i see now it says letterboxed lol.

do blu-ray or high def disks fill the entire screen or do i have to live with this forever?

just seems a shame im not getting use of the entire screen

ps thanks for the quick replys as i was tearing my hair out thinking i was being a noob with my video settings

only good thing to come from this is it makes it easier for me to adjust the brightness until they blend in with the real 16:10 border
 
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Rofflay said:
do blu-ray or high def disks fill the entire screen or do i have to live with this forever?
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gonna have to live with it

Film is 2.35:1

but somebody decided that widescreen TVs should be 16:9 ratio and widescreen monitors 16:10

unless your monitor is 2.35:1 then it will have black boxes. This is because of the aspect ratio of the film.

Untill hollywood starts shooting on digial cameras rather than film cameras, i cant see it happenning any time soon.
 
i cant see it happened then, either lol.

film should be shot to match tv rations or tv's should match the film ratios. as it is a vast majority of films have sodding great borders on a 16:9 display. bit of a waste of screen area, really
 
When I play Gladiator HDTV it only has a small black border on my 20" 16:10, as in about 13-14mm in height, however on an xvid of it I have literally a 2" black border!

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Thought it was an unfair test to use an xvid against the HDTV version so bunged in my gladiator DVD and its exactly the same, I can notice that the DVD and xvid are both "cut off", the HDTV shows more picture, for example, a guys feet are cut off in the DVD and xvid but they show in the HDTV. :/

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Watching a blue ray of the res dogs I have a 2" black border top and bottom too, ah well.
 
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i still dont understand why then u get the black borders on a 16:9 screen how come it doesnt fill the screen with no borders?

or am i missing something -.-

i mean 2.35:1 on a 2.35:1 display still has black borders thats was my question as the border was part of the film source as it was posted
 
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fobose said:
When I play Gladiator HDTV it only has a small black border on my 20" 16:10, as in about 13-14mm in height, however on an xvid of it I have literally a 2" black border!
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ermm, no, just no. There isn't even an HD release of Gladiator!
 
Don't mean to sound patronising here but how on earth can you not realise what's going on by looking at the picture?

The film is "wider"-screen than the monitor. Look at it, it's a different shape altogether. The only way the film could fill the monitor with no black space would be to stretch it vertically which would destroy the aspect ratio and everyone would look very tall and thin.

The film is stretched by an equal factor in both width and height until one of these fills the screen. It's the same reason you'll get black bars down the left and right if you watch a 4:3 picture on a 16:9 TV.
 
Rofflay said:
i still dont understand why then u get the black borders on a 16:9 screen how come it doesnt fill the screen with no borders?

or am i missing something -.-

i mean 2.35:1 on a 2.35:1 display still has black borders thats was my question as the border was part of the film source as it was posted
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Yes you are missing something, you don't have a 2.35:1 screen. It's 16:10. The films you mention like LOTR aren't in 16:10, or in 16:9, they're in the much wider 2.35:1 so you will get significant borders top and bottom on any screen. The actually frame is still 16:9 anomorphic widescreen (which would nearly fill your screen) but the black borders you see are actually part of the picture, hence the 'letterbox' description on the back of the box.

There are plenty of films that are in standard 16:9 though and will nearly fill your screen. You just have to accept though that a lot of films were filmed/released in 2.35:1. If they had released 16:9 versions by 'zooming in' on the middle of the frame you wouldn't be getting the full film as it was shot.
 
Films are shot in two main formats: Scope (2.35:1) or Flat (1.85:1). Some older films are shot in the academy ratio of 1.37:1 :). As everyone else has said monitors and TV's use different resolutions, hence the letterboxing that gets added to DVD's.
 
in windows media player classic u can show films in ultra widescreen ive used it on my own rig (20 inch vx2025 monitor) done away with borders with very little loss in picture quality
 
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