1st time WC/Corsair D800 new build

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As per title.
got most of the components,

Corsair D800
i7 D0
Rampage II
6gb Patriot

Just need some water cooling components now,this is what ive got on the list so far
these have been chosen with a view to W/C the gpu at a later date

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so need some more bits that im not sure about

#1 tubing
#2 fittings
#3 fluid
#4 fans

Also the best routing of tube, ive read a couple of different ways :confused:

feel free to doodle on this mock up ;)
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Also for anyone whos got black tube how can you tell if there are air bubbles ?
And how are the radiators mounted? do fitting come with them ?

Yep theres lots of questions :D
All answers appreciated !
 
A couple of tips to get you going, without going into an essay. Buy a replacement top to go with that pump, it will increase performance and allow you to fit barbs of your choice to it, i.e. the default top on that pumps has moulded 3/8" size barbs which cannot be removed, forcing you to use 3/8" tube. Nothing wrong with 3/8" tube mind, its what I use, its more a performance of the actual pump thing. Second tip, rads as you have mocked up there, would be fixed to the case via the fans, i.e. screw fans to rad with self tapping screws (usually provided with rad), offer rad/fan to holes in case roof, screw fans to roof.
 
Hose cutter is a waste - unless you don't have access to sharp kitchen sissiors.
If you are going to get a DDC top - get a XPSC DDC res top and save some pennies and it's the best performance.
But I can understand if you stick with the EK res - it looks good in a large black case (see build logs in case central)
Have a think about the non-copper HK3 block - performance is almost the same but £15 less.
Also have a think about PA RX or feser rads - will allow you to use slower aka quieter fans to acheive same temp. Check dimemtions
Finally a 1Kw power supply is over kill unless you have two twin core gpu's

Oh and finally - why watercooling?
 
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I agree with the above comments, buy a replacement top for the pump and I would get a thicker Radiator too (theirs plenty of room in the roof of that case). I use 1/2" inner and 3/4" outer tubing but I dont think it makes a huge difference (just make sure the fitting's you use are the correct size to match the tube).

I use feser one fluid, and 3 nuctua p12 fans which i love (so quiet).

I order my loop pump>cpu>rad>res>pump, but again I dont think I matters too much which order, I just like to know that the liquid is at its coolest when it passes through my pump.

Just do your research, take your time and leak test for atleast 24hrs. Its daunting but I really enjoyed doing my water setup. Even though somedays i just wished i bought the h50.
 
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Bubo said:
Second tip, rads as you have mocked up there, would be fixed to the case via the fans, i.e. screw fans to rad with self tapping screws (usually provided with rad), offer rad/fan to holes in case roof, screw fans to roof.
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Lol never even thought of that,obvious when you know ;)

shadowscotland said:
If you are going to get a DDC top - get a XPSC DDC res top and save some pennies and it's the best performance.
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So a DDC-1T Pro w/XSPC V3 Acrylic Pump Top will be better .

shadowscotland said:
the EK res - it looks good in a large black case (see build logs in case central) - why watercooling?
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scoured the case build logs and thats one reason i chose the EK res,
also why i chose W/C . they look sweet and pretty much make a system imho
secondary is performance although im gonna be going to 4gz and believe these chips run hot so cool is the way

shadowscotland said:
Have a think about the non-copper HK3 block - performance is almost the same but £15 less.
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I did think about that first so i could have as much black as poss.
guess ill change that if performance is much different.

I had a look at the RX rads, only ones i could find in stock are a good £20 more than the black ice. Is the extra price justified .
I do want it to be a quite as possible(another reason to go with water)


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cjbagnall said:
I use 1/2" inner and 3/4" outer tubing but I dont think it makes a huge difference (just make sure the fitting's you use are the correct size to match the tube).
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I did read somewhere to get a smaller ID tube than fitting and heat it over them,does that not sound right ?

Im going to be using Bitspower black fittings.. some of the builds ive seen with 3/4" tubing look a bit too much

Just to clarify the tube HERE , is that 3/8 ID ? and if so then a Bitspower 1/4" BSPP - 3/8" ID Hose Tail would be fine with it ?
 
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well worth it - and the PA is only £8 more (but does have different fan spacings which is a shame with that case)

imho the Laing DDC Acetal Pump Top V3 (XSPC) is better for a new builder.
easy to over tighten a barb in Acrylic and get micro cracks - acetal goes with the black theme too.
 
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Am i getting this right, you say the fan spacings are different
would that mean the case would need to be modified before it would fit

these are the dimensions of the case fan spacings JFYI

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You want to check with OCUK if thats the old style PA or the new, the new style uses 'standard' fan spacing and you wont need to mod
 
the one i linked to was the old spacings
Thermochill PA120.2 Radiator (15mm Fan Spacing) - this is how OcUK list the new spacing

But you don't need 12 screws to fix a Rad to a case - the four centre ones will do (but not for a LAN party case)
the four corners would be better - that only means drilling two new holes
 
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Yea ocuk just confirmed that !
So basically it could be secured safely without going out of where a radiator grill (which is on its way) would fit ?
TBH i have seen a 420 fitted to this case but the cover was on top and i prefer the flush look .

Also when you mentioned the non copper EK block ,is that the acetal one ?

Any suggestions on tubes and fluid !
really like the look of the black tube just not sure how too tell if there's air present or even if that would be an issue :confused:
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Is a fillport needed or can you just use the res instead ?
 
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The cpu block is HK (heatkiller) not EK - and I've just checked and the acetal one (POM) is more expensive in LGA1366 - all copper it is then :D

Black tube doesn't show the bubble - but the big ones will be pushed out, and the small ones will come out naturally after 24h or so.
a few light taps the the tube help - but your flow rate will be so high bubbles shouldn't 'stick' to the inner walls.

A fillport is nice but not needed - a funnel is fine if you have steady hands.
And if not a fill line (off cut of tube) can be held outside the case when filling/draining

If you have a separate grill comming - might be worth looking around for a good deal on a 15mm spacing rad - PA RX Feser are the ones to get for quiet fans
 
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Thanks for the help mate ,
very informative.

I managed to source a PA with the correct size spacings, pump / Acetal top and the black barbs.

Just need to pick a liquid,heard loads of story's about residue and colours separating

Anyone have any preferences ?

Oh and finally some fans for the rad,the Noctua P12,s seem a bit over priced and out of stock
I found some Enermax fans that look good in white
infact will it be necessary to have 3 fans atm with just the cpu being cooled ?
 
if you are having black tubing i would just go with a clear liquid.
ive had some bad experiences with coloured liquids and also with added dyes i recommend you steer well away unless you really have to. (i did use dark blue and red and they stained everything big time!)
I personally use coloured tubing to get the desired effect.

Fans mmmm there are so many, i like having the choice of low/high speed via a fan controller so i go for something with high CFM. I have bought lots of different fans Scythe are good (not the 800s), so are yate -loons you can get 2200rpm versions(also one of the cheapest), sharkoon 2000s and the new akasa apaches are getting good reviews on here. Its best to look for what sort of colour/design you want to fit around your build then look what's available!
 
Ok decided to go with the Sharkoon 2000's decent price and look good .
going to go with clear coolant and a coloured led behind the res to get the effect i was after.
Is there any difference in quality with the clear fluids
price range from 6 - 20 pounds seems wide for what looks to be the same thing.
 
Id definitely reccomend a fan controller for the sharkoon silent eagle 2000's. Used to run 5 of them in my case (2 on a TRUE). Awesome cooling but theyre pretty loud at ful speed, thankfully i had them on a controller which allowed me to dial them down a bit.
 
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Id definitely recommend a fan controller for the sharkoon silent eagle 2000's.
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Yea noise level was a bit of a concern but id already got a Scythe Kaze-Master on the list so should be ok.
HybridX said:
Just an FYI theres enough room in the 800D to put the 360rad on pushpull fans
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Yes i can well believe it but ive also been led to believe that they dont provide a big enough difference for the added noise and noise is a major point.
Pretty sure that rad will be more than upto the job anyway with just the 3 fans ;)
 
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