2,000 migrants tried to enter channel tunnel last night!
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I got that. But it made no sense.
What was your point?
You highlight three very successful former colonies as if to rebuff my argument, then seem to be insinuating that the other three are much less successful because they didn't have any British influence, to strengthen yours.
But they did. And they aren't particularly unsuccessful anyway.
Have you ever visited South Africa? You are aware of Egypt is a prominent and powerful African nation?
But it wouldn't make any sense as a retort anyway, because highlighting that some former colonies flourished after we left doesn't disprove what I said.
You might also be aware that the "backward" African nation of Egypt had a flourishing and successful empire that lasted far far longer than the British empire, and long before it.
If my argument is so weak, surely you should be able to dismantle it easily without resorting to nonsensical sarcasm? But then, I guess not, given that you are capable of such ridiculously stupid and arrogant statements like:
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I am totally fine with taking in legitimate refugees from places like Syria which are in the shambles they are because of our foreign misadventures. To turn people away that have suffered the way these people have is deeply ethically wrong.
Besides, despite what the Daily Fail and co would have you believe, the UK is not the sole destination for every refugee in the western world. Germany takes far more.
Besides, despite what the Daily Fail and co would have you believe, the UK is not the sole destination for every refugee in the western world. Germany takes far more.
All our ships are in the Mediterranean picking these people up and dropping them off in Greece.
Greece then gives them all EU passports and then they take the next bus to the UK.
Stupid isn't the word
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I was just pointing out that is is entirely possible to get an EU passport legitimately.
In the case of Calias, they will not have passports which compounds the problem, all these people crying send them back, where to exactly, how do the authorities establish where they come from?
Because you put forward that is was a largely negative process whereas I've highlighted there is was largely a positive process even if it was for our own benefit.
All this woe is me colonial exploitation sounds very much like what have the Romans ever done for us.
Countries have and always will influence and control each other. Most countries get on with it afterwards, some like to bleat about all the problems they face as being of external causation without looking at their own corrupt regimes that propagate problems.
For me the biggest negative influences the West/East have made in Africa are the provision of immunisation, the provision of famine relief and the provision of armaments.
Africans are always moaning about colonial influence until something goes wrong for them then they come cap in hand expecting everyone to bail them out ... yet again. Well how about they stop being so corrupt, how about they stop breeding when they don't have enough food for the mouths that already need feeding, how about they stop fighting and ethnically cleansing each other, how about they stop eating monkeys/bats and all other sorts of wonderful bush meats? And how about they stop prostituting themselves to the Chinese but getting very little in return this time ...
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Well thats what England gets for building a tunnel to France rather than N Ireland, should have put the UK first. 
Given the circumstances I am not sure what else they can do.
They have little alternative really but they will still be pilloried for it.[TW]Fox;28377358 said:
It does, but it is not the fault of the Kent Constabulary, this is a european wide problem that has been brewing for years.
If they can, yeah.
We are at the end of the chain, the problem needs to be tackled up stream.
2000 people would be nothing either if it wasn't for the other immigration problems we are battling with. This is the straw that people perceive will break the camel's back. The problem is not the straw it's the way we handle immigration from within the EU and the political culture that movement has created.
Maybe Poland could take these people. There are enough Poles in the rest of the EU but Poland itself takes in nobody. Just a thought!
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Hasn't the sensible alternative to stack always been one or more huge lorry parks equipped with toilets, showers, access to hot food, wifi etc. Problem has been nimbyism in Kent whenever a site is proposed and arguments over who pays for it.
Stack is used at other times as well as times of increased migrant activity e.g. bad weather in the channel - it's an unacceptable solution to a problem that will always occur from time to time.
Hoe does that address migrants running through the tunnel or training to jump on the back of a lorry in France?
Exactly!
I didn't know Poland won't take any migrants have you a link for that.
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Nothing obviously, but as already pointed out, bad weather, industrial action and so on also mean stack has to be implemented. Expecting truckers to "park their brown smelly personal loads" at the side of the road is not acceptable. Kent may be the garden of England, but I don't want to eat anything fertilized that way.
What is the procedure for claiming asylum, does anyone know? Do you show up at a border crossing and say I am fleeing persecution in Syria and request asylum? Or do you have to get into the country (illegally) first?
Honestly have no idea how it works.
Honestly have no idea how it works.
Christ, I'd hate to be a Swede, to have no go areas in your own country and yet their Government is clearly lubing up to accept far more than the rest of Europe.
A Swedish blogger on Youtube reported that one of their judges refused to deport an African rapist, because he might rape someone in his own country and by deporting him they were just transferring the problem.
It all kind of makes sense if you are a liberal, but talk about shafting your own people...
"In the spring, Civic Platform found itself under pressure from NGOs that appealed for the admission of 300 Syrian Christian families threatened with death by Islamists (but it was stressed that they were Christians, and therefore less culturally alien)"
Good to see that even the Guardian is able to print that islam is culturally alien, without rolling their eyes
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