2,000 migrants tried to enter channel tunnel last night!

itchy · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:13

V F said:
This is what cheeses me off the most. Look what they leave behind before they move onto the next place. Every place looks like a dump. Like the life of tinkers.
God knows what the smell is like and the ground contamination.

But they could be skilled moral workers we need them? :rolleyes:

itchy · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:22

Boycey0211 said:
So you didn't bother reading then, brilliant.

5. I explained point number 5 futher up in the thread, but as with most facts I think you've done a pretty good job of ignoring them all.

6. Its charity clothing that most of them have been given

7. No, they get travel to the next country along as that country doesnt have to deal with them if they leave of their own free will.

8. What you want to get a job in greece? good luck with that, keep going.

9. Agreed

10. Agreed, again I've previously stated that and the reasoning behind it, which you ignored.

Naive? Get the facts and come back with a valid argument, your sensible points are outweighed by drivel unfortunately.

I not getting in to a tit for tat argument with you.

Basics.

How do you propose we deal with these people, we have enough problems ourselves. We can do and have the resources and space for genuine people in crisis, but the is no way in this world they all running from so called persecution.

I do feel sorry for the genuine ones, but lets face it if you really want to claim asylum, the last thing you do is break the law.

A humble approach would be more appropriate so to say?

itchy · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:33

Oh the pressure !

The humble and intelligent approach would be if you had anything in between the ears.
Claim asylum in first safe country, then obtain a Italian, Greek, French etc passport, then you free to move all over the EU, including the UK. Job done.

Or Be a criminal and try to break into the UK? :eek:

Because that's what they doing. :rolleyes:

itchy · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:42

Caged said:
Saying what you think these people should be doing is not a solution to the current problem.

I was replying to previous post.

This is the problem what can we do? No one has come up with a decisive way of dealing with this. We can banter, shoot at them and argue all day but what can we do. :confused:

What would be a humane and considerate manner to deal with illegal immigration?

Brain cell comment was not directed at the forum but at the people we talking about. :rolleyes:

itchy · 2 Aug 2015 at 00:36

Boycey0211 said:
I'll repeat myself again. Again.

The UK is seen as relatively affluent, compared to Spain and Greece this is true, also more chance of employment here than there.

Are they all from africa are they???? You been and asked them all?????? Definitely no Syrians, Iraqis, or anything else??????

Maybe they have friends here that have arrived legally but they cant????

Look I cant do all your research for you, you are beyond help.

I suggest you build a 40 foot wall around your house to stop them getting in and setting up camp. Better build it from the inside to be safe, and don't make a door anywhere in it otherwise theyll break in.

You should be safe then.

So come on, what is your a feasible strategy to deal with these people ?? :confused:

You have not come up with a concise plan to deal with the issue at hand.

£35 a week and house/hotel, :eek:

if that's true then ...... am calling my anger therapist ASAP!

itchy · 2 Aug 2015 at 00:50

Caged said:
It's £5 a day and a room in a Best Western in Lancashire, if that's enough to get you angry then maybe therapy is the correct answer.

Who is paying for this??? Me and ****ing you! :mad:

You liberal collage educated people need to wake up to the real world.
You are taught lies about diversity, multicultural society and we all the same.
No we are not the bloody same, you only have to look back in history to realise that its bull hit. :rolleyes:

We don't mix period, but I respect and love other cultures and the diversity.

Chips and custard don't go. But I love both on their own and that should be preserved and treasured.

itchy · 2 Aug 2015 at 01:21

Boycey0211 and vidar have been totally converted to a ethical inaptitude of a sock. :rolleyes:

I don't know what you getting at, I just don't understand how you can think we can accept more and more people for the sake of humanity. :confused:

Lets just let them in and feed, house and clothe them. 10,000 this year, 50,000 next year. 100,000 the year after, see my point it has to stop somewhere. :mad:

I do understand genuine women and children in desperation, but these are all young ass thugs breaking the law for a better life.

I could think of a million ways to break the law for a better life!

Yer I want them in my country all day!

Enough of them around here as it is, and am talking Caucasian born and bred in UK.

itchy · 2 Aug 2015 at 01:38

Boycey0211 said:
Another solid argument backed up by facts by itchy talking ****

Immigration figures havent risen significantly since about 2004

Please swap places with them, you make it sound so easy.

Not sure if serious or troll? :confused:

Immigration has not risen since 2004. :rolleyes:

http://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/briefings/migrants-uk-overview

PSML!!!!

itchy · 2 Aug 2015 at 02:11

Don't feed the trolls, because that's what is happening! :mad:

Chill we don't need aggression and outbursts, we here for a formal discussion not a fight.

We know two posters Vidar and Boycet0211 are flaming so lets keep it civilized please or just close the thread.

itchy · 2 Aug 2015 at 02:20

Boycey0211 said:
It is a discussion, I'm not trolling because I'm genuinely listening to everyones points and giving my own point of view.

You're the one thats created this thread specifically with the intent of getting people riled up, as you cant back up any of your points of view

You have not answered my question ?

What do we do with these people? How do we integrate, educate, house and feed these people??? :confused:

How??? What do you propose we do?

itchy · 2 Aug 2015 at 02:39

Boycey0211 said:
But I've already told you!!!!!

We're already doing what we can as a country, there is a system already in place that works to assess people based on whether or not they need asylum or can be sent home, but it isnt big enough.

For it to be big enough to cope it needs more money, and good luck trying to get voters to spend extra taxes on it because I know exactly what the result will be if its mentioned!

The bit you are getting wound up over is the inbetween bit, the bit where they cant get a job because they arent residents, this also means they arent entitled to housing apart from this hotel thingy (which is only being done as everywhere else is full).

More taxes into it would mean hiring more assessors and weeding out those non-genuine claims quicker, getting the bad eggs home quicker which then frees up places in the purpose built accomodation, taking them out of hotels so the DM doesn't have a story anymore.

We already integrate and educate as best we can, we have free schooling and a free NHS.

If you had never worked a day in your life, and neither had any of your family for the last 500 years or whatever then you would still be entitled to those services, and benefits, and social housing.

So in short, the system needs more money, as does social housing, as does the NHS and as does the education system. If they even put taxes up for a service you use you'll moan about it so they cant win really can they?

Your ineptitude is beyond comprehension, just where does this money and manpower come from to deal with the situation. :confused:

Magic fairy dust, santa maybe . Every bloody thing you can think of cost money. No ifs or buts its all down to money. :rolleyes:

itchy · 2 Aug 2015 at 02:49

So you think a tax increase on something that has sod all to do with me and you is right? :rolleyes:

I don't get what your saying??? :confused:

Nothing personal mate but you have a mad out look on life!

itchy · 2 Aug 2015 at 22:26

I am trying to catch up with this thread as much as I can.

But you have to stand in awe at the humanity and salvation that vadir and boycey0211 bring to the table. :eek:

Maybe am wrong and I have been misguided in my 43 years of life.
How could I not know we have infinite food, water, housing, education and health care. How could I have got it so wrong over all these years. :rolleyes:

Please do guide me in you general direction of consensus because at the moment all your responses allude me. But please do teach me your ways as am very intrigued. :confused:

As for the racists shout F--------------off. I don't hate anyone, but you not getting no cookies, if you break into my house no matter what colour your skin.

itchy · 2 Aug 2015 at 22:54

MrMoonX said:
Since when was this country broke?

Are you bloody serious ! :rolleyes:

Caged said:
Do you go into Tesco and find an empty bread aisle and conclude that you're never going to eat a sandwich again? There isn't a set number of houses that naturally exist in the UK and adding to this number is impossible, it's just that successive governments have done literally nothing about the problem.

Don't do Tesco period. :rolleyes:

Ok so we conclude it is mine or our fault that successive Goverbents did not build enough housing to accommodate immigrants.

I get it all my fault so I will have to pay for it.
I don't mind, tell you what why don't you just lube me and take me the cleaners, just to be sure.

The buck has to stop, I just don't get what you people don't see, it has to end somewhere??? :mad: