2,000 migrants tried to enter channel tunnel last night!

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Welcome to the GD section of OcUK - you will often find more enlightened views in the Daily Mail comment section.

It would be nice for some simple human decency and compassion to be shown but to be fair even the media’s portrayal of this problem is shocking. There is more sympathy for a dead lion (which is also abhorrent) than the thousands of desperate human beings fleeing their countries in search of a safer and better life.

They are not desperate human beings, otherwise they wouldn't have crossed multiple safe countries to get here. They're shameless moochers who want free money, bed, board and lodgings at somebody else's expense.
 
The vast majority of them actually go to Germany. The UK took in less asylum seekers last year than the tiny Hungary. You and the other xenophobes are the ones who need to have a 're-think'. Actually you need a 'think' because you haven't put much thought in your arguments other than 'grrrr send 'em back!'.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/da...-eu-countries-receive-the-most-asylum-seekers

What would be great if you could add illegal immigrants to the figures. Or find out the movements of these asylum seekers after asylum has been granted in a certain country.

EDIT; you are also only talking about Asylum seekers. Add legal-immigrants to that list (which we take more than our proportionate share of, and then add illegal immigrants (2009 estimates were 860,000). It's a huge influx.

Thing with you liberals, you can only deal with extremes...

I am all for immigration, just controlled. I see the benefit they bring. Net contributors, etc. Multiculturalisation is a nice thing to have.

But you liberals can't compute that. You read 'I don't think letting every Tom, Dick and Harry into this country is a good thing' and you start screaming 'XENOPHOPE, RACIST' it's dull.

Like I said before, if you open the flood gates how then do you draw a line?
 
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It is perfectly possible to write on a topic and be mostly detached from it, so sorry, no bulging vein here :)
This is just politics to me, not a personal issue, I don't actually care about any of these people.


I'm not sure of how to label the section of society that is forever wringing their hands over these people whilst ignore the **** they create.

"Liberal" is just my shorthand for a group that is made up of idiots, SJW's, socialists, UAF, hippies, apologists, socialist militants, cultural Marxists, feminazis and fascist liberals, and maybe the fag end of the Tory party.





Because your nativity creates problems for the rest of us.
If you want to help, go and take them some in-date Ravioli from Waitrose, just don't pretend you have the moral high ground because you were suckered into believing their sob story
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funny that seems like that is directed at me personally, must be hard feeling so bad about fellow humans.
 
Why does he not just use the RAF to bomb migrant camps in northern france. Also deploy the army to shoot any migrants that make it through to the UK and broadcast it all live around the world to make migrants fear coming to britain.


He is such a moron, on the one hand his is desperately trying to appease the 90% of people in the UK who don't want any more beardy Jihadis on their streets, and yet on the other hand he is telling them there are loads of jobs in the UK.

For god's sake Cameron, just shut the **** up.

funny that seems like that is directed at me personally, must be hard feeling so bad about fellow humans.

Not at you as such, I'm just using you to make a generalist point about people like you. You are probably a great person, but I'm obliged to counter your opinion.
 
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This may have been discussed before - I have never been sure why the refugees are so desperate to get to the UK, as opposed to staying in France (or going to Germany/Spain etc). Presumably *something* here is better for them? A colleague suggested language, but surely that can't be it?

Lack of ID cards in the UK makes for a thriving black economy - there's no way you'd get away with renting out your shed to 4 illegal immigrants in Germany but it's normal in parts of London. Plus there's loads of Brits who are naively kind, so give stuff away to them or make easy marks for crime.
 
Most of east Africa only gained independence from Britain in the 50s and 60s. We grew rich exploiting east Africa's people and resources. Is it surprising that some of those people, who feel a link with our country, want to come share some of that economic benefit?

We aren't responsible for the state of Africa today - one might argue that Somalis have done such a bad job of managing their country that they'd be better off under British rule again. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the USA send troops to Somalia to try and stabilize it but the civilian population preferred tribal conflict instead. Guess what? You reap what you sow.
 
Not at you as such, I'm just using you to make a generalist point about people like you. You are probably a great person, but I'm obliged to counter your opinion.
you seem to link having compassion for people with being a liberal far left type, most people are not so easy to put in a box, but you go for it if it helps your pov.

Fact is for what ever reason these people are there and need help, as a decent nation we have a responsibility to help them, as does the rest of Europe.
 
He is such a moron, on the one hand his is desperately trying to appease the 90% of people in the UK who don't what any more beardy Jihadis on their streets, and yet on the other hand he is telling them there are loads of jobs in the UK.

For god's sake Cameron, just shut the **** up.

Just think how bad this would have been if a labour government was in power though, those retarded lefties would be welcoming in these parasitic freeloaders with open arms. At least we keeping these ravenous hordes at bay for now.
 
you seem to link having compassion for people with being a liberal far left type, most people are not so easy to put in a box, but you go for it if it helps your pov.

Equally I'm in the same position, on this single issue I'm in the same box as most far right groups, even though I don't entirely fit in that box.
It is the nature of political rhetoric I think.

Fact is for what ever reason these people are there and need help, as a decent nation we have a responsibility to help them, as does the rest of Europe.
Normally yes, however having seen what has happened in Sweden, France and Germany after they have let muslims into their country, I'm not willing to see the situation continue to worsen in the UK.

If the option to let them in was taken off the table then yes I would be happy to help, however if people continue to suggest that possibility then I'm obliged to oppose it entirely.

If nobody in Government is making the distinction between 'immigrant' and 'muslim immigrant', then they clearly do not understand the problem this country faces.
There are a whole group of people we could be letting in right now but for this, and again that is the end result of liberals insisting that everyone be treated equally.

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Just think how bad this would have been if a labour government was in power though, those retarded lefties would be welcoming in these parasitic freeloaders with open arms. At least we keeping these ravenous hordes at bay for now.

Labour are not a leftist part they are a smidge to the right and immigration has increased under the coalition and seemingly so under the Tories.

Now that doesn't mean they would have done things any better or preclude them from doing worse but it does throw your argument into touch as being in any way correct.
 
We aren't responsible for the state of Africa today - one might argue that Somalis have done such a bad job of managing their country that they'd be better off under British rule again. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the USA send troops to Somalia to try and stabilize it but the civilian population preferred tribal conflict instead. Guess what? You reap what you sow.

What do you consider Britain and its allies "responsible" for today then?

Context: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...r-strikes-against-Isil-in-Syria-and-Iraq.html
 
They should all be processed properly... Why aren't they rounded up and taken to Asylum centres for criminal record checks etc? The money would be better spent processing them than trying to stop them from getting here...
 
For those that say we should let them in. Should we then let in EVERY Migrant that comes knocking at our door?

Why doesn't other countries let them in freely?
 
Jebus, it gets worse,
this is apparently idiot Cameron's solution to keeping the next generation of child rapists out of the UK :rolleyes:


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Yep that's a whole 9ft... :o

This was a section installed last year, it fell over on a windy day.


Speaking from experience as a once 13 year old kid with a long summer holiday to fill, we used to climb fences like this by leaning a plank of wood against it and climbing over...

Now as much as I relish Cameron being laughed at for being a drippy waste of oxygen, I do wish someone in Government with more of a clue would get a grip.
 
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Why are we only screening vehicles etc at boarding in France and relying on the French to do a thorough job and not also screening at disembark here in England where there is no French government to blame?

Or is that a different legal issue because then they are technically on English soil etc?
 
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