2,000 migrants tried to enter channel tunnel last night!

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BuffetSlayer said:
Yup, it is easy to sit in a high chair and be judge and jury from a distance. It's similar to being a keyboard warrior on a computer forum, or killing people in a game like GTA V.

I find it interesting that people have such a disregard for human life that their go to answer when faced with a difficult humanatarian situation is to put people in the ground.

I wonder how these same people feel about the Holocaust, or any other number of genocides over the last 75 years?
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All this talk of killing them is merely testosterone fuelled internet hyperbole, but nevertheless, you do have to be tough sometimes in life. Life sucks for those migrants in Calais but they must be rounded up, interned and processed in accordance with the relevant laws on immigration and asylum. Criminality must never be rewarded. How many more people are the French authorities going to let die before they take this action?
 
SPG said:
Lets take them all in with open arms and see them leech more and more from the UK while we have our own problems with homelessness & foodbanks. I am all out of charity for these people.

I have ZERO sympathy for any of there deaths.
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This, 110% this.

I heard on BBC Radio Sheffield this morning about a local taxi firm who have organised a day out for people in the area who use food banks to feed their kids. They are planning on taking them out to the seaside for the day, give the kids some spending money and pay for food while they are there. It may seem like nothing a day trip out but to some people it just isn't affordable.

They have set up a fund for people to donate, their target is £2000 and are currently at around £500. The taxi firm will be taking them all in their cabs.

Like you SPG, I'm fed up of helping people abroad when we have our own issues right here on our door step.
 
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Evangelion said:
It's the same with Australia. People scream about 15,000 asylum seekers as if it's the end of the world when it's merely a drop in the bucket.
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I bet only a tiny minority are real asylum seekers and the trouble in Europe is that the drop has become a stream because they never stop coming. You can see it becoming a river if something is not done about it.
 
[TW]Fox;28373029 said:
If we have an 'open door' approach why are people paying thousands of euros they don't have and risking death to sneak through the tunnel when a single ticket on Eurostar is 50 quid?
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Getting in the back of a lorry for a 32 mile drive is not 'risking death.'

These people are no more able to enter the UK as they are Australia, which is why like migrants to Australia they risk life and limb to sneak in illegally.
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It's far easier to enter the UK: just go through the Chunnel. Border control at the French end is clearly in chaos, while at the UK end it appears to be virtually non-existent.

It's actually easier to get into Australia - as they have a skills based points system and we do not.
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No, it's more difficult to get into Australia precisely because of the points system. We don't have EU membership, which means we're under no obligation to accept people from the EU, whereas the UK is.
 
[TW]Fox;28373029 said:
If we have an 'open door' approach why are people paying thousands of euros they don't have and risking death to sneak through the tunnel when a single ticket on Eurostar is 50 quid?

These people are no more able to enter the UK as they are Australia, which is why like migrants to Australia they risk life and limb to sneak in illegally.

We do not have an open door approach to non EU migrants. Unless you are marrying a British person who earns over £18k, or you have a very specific family circumstance, the door is shut as tightly as it is Australia. Which is why these people are entering illegally - you know, as illegal immigrants. It's actually easier to get into Australia - as they have a skills based points system and we do not.
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I agree, what gets me is the open door approach to eu members, loads come over here with no work and just scrounge of our state.
 
It is going to get to a point where things turn violent and the fact that the french do nothing, If I was a lorry driver I would be carrying something it will come a point where they are attacked. Its getting a little out of hand !
 
They are not refugees or asylum seekers, they have passed through many safe havens on their way to the UK. You only have to look at them, all men in their 20's, all have phones, jewellery, wearing designer clothes, leather jackets, hardly rags, they all look very fit and healthy, they don't look like 'Desperate' refugees. They are nothing more the foot-soldiers of Islam attempting to invade the UK and should be treated as such.

Our Govt. are quick to clamp down on everything remotely threatening except the Elephant in the room that they have created.
 
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To the UK! :p;)
 
Evangelion said:
Getting in the back of a lorry for a 32 mile drive is not 'risking death.'
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People have died. There is therefore a risk of death. They are not just getting into the back of trucks, they are storming the tunnel.

It's far easier to enter the UK: just go through the Chunnel. Border control at the French end is clearly in chaos, while at the UK end it appears to be virtually non-existent.
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It's not easier to enter legally.

No, it's more difficult to get into Australia precisely because of the points system. We don't have EU membership, which means we're under no obligation to accept people from the EU, whereas the UK is.
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This is about non-EU migrants so we must leave aside the EU situation. We are not obligated to accept these people which is why every night they risk death trying to get here illegally.

It is no easier for a non-EU migrant to legally reside here than it is for them to legally reside in Australia.
 
I agree. Very difficult to get into Oz. This country is probably the easiest in the world to get into. We let everyone in. Terrorist who want to scrounge off of us but at the same time preach hate for us!!
 
Why do they actually want to come here? What is the irresistible draw to get into the UK, rather than stay in any other modern European country once they have reached it?
 
ubersonic said:
The UK has a points system too, however in both cases the systems are irrelevant because illegal immigrants don't apply for entry.
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Exactly! It isn't our immigration system that is 'letting these people in'. We could have a 'nobody comes in ever' system and they'd still be attempting entry, thats kinda the point in illegal immigration and why its called 'illegal' immigration.
 
Uther said:
Why do they actually want to come here? What is the irresistible draw to get into the UK, rather than stay in any other modern European country once they have reached it?
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Parts of the country e.g. East London are like the third world so they feel at home here.
 
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Uther said:
Why do they actually want to come here? What is the irresistible draw to get into the UK, rather than stay in any other modern European country once they have reached it?
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I can't imagine the myth perpetuated by our press based on the odd high profile case that if you come here you get free everything is helping the situation.

Half the British public are convinced we let everyone in, give them a totally free house and loads of free money, so it's hardly a surprise that the potential immigrants think that as well.
 
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