£2000 Build - Need Advice

Shampoo · 23 Nov 2018 at 23:01

Hello, brother wants a new PC, but wont let me build as he wants full warranty support from a pre-built. He's coming up from a Win7/DDR3 system so nothing's really being transferred. Whole new tower required. What's the best I can do today in the next week for two grand? Powering a 1440p monitor and I think avoiding the bloated RTX series is for the best here. I welcome your help and recs on this.

Will be used for gaming, movies, etc so a best of all trades would be needed. Cheers.

orbitalwalsh · 23 Nov 2018 at 23:05

He's just got a standard 1440p 60hz monitor ?

Or want to game at 1440p ?

Shampoo · 23 Nov 2018 at 23:08

Aye, just a DELL IPS. 60Hz. I don't think he's bothered about going any higher for the gaming. He's not pushing for 4K or looking for a monitor at that res for now at all. He only plays retro and modern single-player titles. Nothing online or competitive. He doesn't want to drop settings though.

He's had the current i5/970 rig for 3/4 years so I think he wants that long out of this.

orbitalwalsh · 23 Nov 2018 at 23:21

That's more Intel side for retro games as they are single core based, but... Ryzen running 4.2/3ghz on its own auto overclock should do ok

Not breaking the bank.

Would ask OCUK to change PSU to Bequiet 700w or Antec 750w unit

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x OcUK Gaming Zenith Gaming PC - AMD Ryzen 7 2700X @ 4.0GHz, Vega 56 ***THREE FREE GAMES*** = £1,325.94
- Graphics Card:Gigabyte Radeon RX VEGA 64 WindForce OC 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card
- Primary Solid State Drive:TeamGroup 480GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive
- WIFI:Unwanted
- Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
- Security Software:Unwanted
- Case:Lian-Li Lancool One Midi Tower - Black Window
- Memory:Gigabyte Aorus RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual/Quad Channel Kit

Total: £1,340.04 (includes shipping: £14.10)

Shampoo · 23 Nov 2018 at 23:32

He wont touch AMD even though it's clearly best bang for buck. He's one of the Intel/Nvidia loyalists...

I nearly got a Vega myself today, but the PSU requirements were too high for my current PSU!

I should have specified the brand requirements initially. Sorry about that.

I had a look at a few configurations and they seem to go from 1.2k to 5k without much in between... It definitely seems a harder task today getting a good value than it was a few years ago! The Nvidia card prices are insane!

orbitalwalsh · 23 Nov 2018 at 23:39

Is option of putting list together , exactly to what's needed and OCUK can build it for £80-150 on top

Shampoo · 23 Nov 2018 at 23:42

Go for it.

Shampoo · 23 Nov 2018 at 23:55

What about this? Have I missed something or made a mistake on the GPU? Would a 1070Ti be better in there against that Zotac 2080? Just a shade under 2 grand.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...H33~2bCqI33~7bCqJ33~xbCqN33~ybCqO33$:bCqP33~U

lee32uk · 24 Nov 2018 at 00:20

Shampoo said:
What about this? Have I missed something or made a mistake on the GPU? Would a 1070Ti be better in there against that Zotac 2080? Just a shade under 2 grand.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...H33~2bCqI33~7bCqJ33~xbCqN33~ybCqO33$:bCqP33~U

No need for a 9900K though. The 9700K or even 9600K would be more than fine just for gaming. As for the GPU then a 1070/ti is about all you need for 1080p/60Hz. A 2080 is overkill for that resolution/refresh rate.

I would also ask ocuk to put in a better power supply. The one in the description just says 600W Bronze so I am guessing it is one of the lower end Kolink units. Something like a Seasonic Focus or Antec Earthwatts etc would be better.

Shampoo · 24 Nov 2018 at 00:31

It's not 1080p, it's 1440p if that changes anything.

lee32uk · 24 Nov 2018 at 01:05

Shampoo said:
It's not 1080p, it's 1440p if that changes anything.

Oops my bad. The 1070 ti then will still be fine as it is a 1080p/1440p gpu. The 1080 ti or RTX 2080 would be better for a high refresh rate i.e 165Hz 1440p.

Shampoo · 24 Nov 2018 at 14:05

I guess with no other suggestions then we'll run with what I've posted and throw a Seasonic Focus Plus 1000W 80 Plus Gold PSU in it. We're sticking with the i9 as he wants to do video stuff so it's just deciding the GPU then. 1070Ti seems adequate, but will it remain so for the next two years at 1440p? A few opinions on this would be welcome.

orbitalwalsh · 24 Nov 2018 at 14:58

Shampoo said:
I guess with no other suggestions then we'll run with what I've posted and throw a Seasonic Focus Plus 1000W 80 Plus Gold PSU in it. We're sticking with the i9 as he wants to do video stuff so it's just deciding the GPU then. 1070Ti seems adequate, but will it remain so for the next two years at 1440p? A few opinions on this would be welcome.

Much better board . Both card and board come with UK RMA

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Bitfenix Whisper M Series 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply= £89.99
1 x In-Win 101 Midi-Tower Case - Black Window= £66.95
1 x Alphacool Eisbaer LT240 CPU AIO Water Cooling Unit - 240mm (11445)= £89.99
1 x Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - OEM= £379.99
1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30= £99.95
1 x Toshiba 1TB P300 7200RPM Performance Hard Drive (HDWD110UZSVA)= £36.95
1 x Microsoft Windows 10 64-Bit DVD - OEM (MS-KW9-00139)= £109.99
1 x Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 WindForce OC 8192MB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £749.99
1 x Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite Intel Z390 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £179.99
1 x Intel 512GB 545s SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps TLC 3D NAND Solid State Drive (SSDSC2KW512G8X1)= £69.95

Total: £1,886.34 (includes shipping: £12.60)

£100 build cost on top

Shampoo · 24 Nov 2018 at 17:20

Am I locked out of Win7 on the modern CPU/Board? I have a disc/license and it's be an easy £100 saved as we do prefer 7. I'm not sure how it works nowadays!

orbitalwalsh · 24 Nov 2018 at 20:09

Shampoo said:
Am I locked out of Win7 on the modern CPU/Board? I have a disc/license and it's be an easy £100 saved as we do prefer 7. I'm not sure how it works nowadays!

most just use windows media creation tool, install windows 10 IOS to USB and then install and buy a key for £15

Shampoo · 25 Nov 2018 at 13:59

It's so annoying buying for someone else tbh. Getting the £15 key, building it yourself, hand picking every part down to the SATA cables etc is where all the fun is. The confines of the pre-built section is no fun!

Still, if they're happy with it then I shouldn't get too annoyed.

Shampoo · 25 Nov 2018 at 14:15

I checked another config and this gave me more control over the motherboard and PSU. Can somebody please go over it and give me a verdict? We're buying tomorrow so not a great deal of time left to narrow it down.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...S2?v_bmeT2?v.bmfa2?v-bmfT2/29btlE2#)VbtlF2#'y

orbitalwalsh · 25 Nov 2018 at 17:39

Shampoo said:
I checked another config and this gave me more control over the motherboard and PSU. Can somebody please go over it and give me a verdict? We're buying tomorrow so not a great deal of time left to narrow it down.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...S2?v_bmeT2?v.bmfa2?v-bmfT2/29btlE2#)VbtlF2#'y

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x OcUK Tech Labs Coffee Lake Pro Gaming Configurator = £2,074.81
- Motherboard:Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite Intel Z390 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
- Processor:Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - OEM
- CPU Cooler:be quiet! Silent Loop Superior Liquid CPU Cooler - 240mm
- Memory:Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30
- M.2 Solid State Drive **For Operating System If Selected**:Unwanted
- Solid State Drive 1:WD Blue 3D NAND 500GB 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive (WDS500G2B0A)
- Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
- Mechanical Hard Drive 1:Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD - *System Stock*
- Mechanical Hard Drive 2:Unwanted
- Optical Drive **Please Check Chassis Support**:Unwanted
- Power Supply:Bitfenix Whisper M Series 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply
- Soundcard:Unwanted
- Network Adapter:Unwanted
- Case Lighting:Unwanted
- Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
- Security Software:Unwanted
- Build Time:Standard Build Systems - Dispatched within 7 working days
- Headset:Unwanted
- Keyboard:Unwanted
- Mouse:Unwanted
- Speakers:Unwanted
- Monitor:Unwanted
- Gaming Chair:Unwanted
- Case:Lian-Li Alpha 550X Midi Tower RGB Tempered Glass Case - Black
- Graphics:Gigabyte Aorus GeForce GTX 1080TI 11264MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card
- Graphics 2 (SLI/Crossfire):Unwanted

Total: £2,088.91 (includes shipping: £14.10)

drop to 9700k and up gtx 1080ti

Shampoo · 25 Nov 2018 at 18:47

Those 8 cores going to be enough? Is it a sacrifice worth taking to get the 1080Ti in there at 1440p? 2 years from now will 8 cores still do the job?

4K8KW10 · 25 Nov 2018 at 20:28

Shampoo said:
Those 8 cores going to be enough?

It is better to look for 12 or 16 threads.

Shampoo said:
2 years from now will 8 cores still do the job?

Poorly, this is just the new i5 rebranded and presented to you as a fake i7.