Poll: 2008 Brazilian GP - Race 18/18

[knip]

1. Because he may not have acces to her.
2. The real thing is good and all, but sometimes, people want change/variance. This is why many people who are married, etc still watch a lot of porn, have affairs, visit prostitutes and so forth.
3. For similar reasons that Hugh Grant who was co-habiting with Elizabeth Hurley, but decided it would be good to have sex with Divine Brown - a cheap prostitute he found on the street, in USA.

Whooooooosh!
I was being humorous my dear and have no issues with anyone who wishes to watch porn.

Am off out now thankfully....see you all later!

 

[Cavallino]

Nooo come back knip.
You better be here for the race dammit.

 

[knip]

Nooo come back knip.
You better be here for the race dammit.

As I said there will be blood spilt here in Bristol if my Mum doesnt have me back here by 4pm!

 

[Cavallino]

Mommy knip you better haul knips ass home before 4pm. (or 5 at the latest )

 

[Creature]

I have to work again Had to last year as well...my work life is annoying sometimes.

 

[SDK^]

Has a championship ever been decided on countbacks?

1988 Senna won but Prost had more points overall throughout the year.

The system back then was the highest eleven point finishes, Senna had more wins and seconds places so took the championship.

 

[utajoker]

i can see everyone thinking the worst of everything and i bet its a totaly uneventful race, massa winning and hamilton coming in 3rd/4th with nothing happening at all.

 

[FrankJH]

Ok I want to ask Hamilton fans. Do you honestly, in the bottom of your hearts believe he will pull it off today?

Im not a fan of Hamilton, but I feel he will more than likely pull it off.

If its very wet LH will win the race (this will also help the stress of the engine, being on its second race, and potentially the gear box also -on its 3rd race)

If its mildly wet LH wont win but will do enough to win the WDC

If its dry anything could happen

Somehow the FIA WILL intervene (but I hope Im proven wrong)

 

[NathanE]

Poll added

 

[sunama]

Don't forget when Schumacher broke his legs at Silverstone some parts of the crowd were seen cheering...

I dont think they cheered about his breaking his legs. They cheered because he was out of the race.

 

[sunama]

So does anybody know Stig1 was banned?

 

[NathanE]

So does anybody know Stig1 was banned?

He was a clone of another user called MrMen. Ban evasion. So the next guy that posts in an F1 thread with <100 posts in an inflammatory manner with no prior history of posting in an F1 thread and we will know it is him again

 

[Cavallino]

So does anybody know Stig1 was banned?

+1

 

[Cavallino]

Unusual!

Fernando Alonso was the only driver to outqualify his team-mate on every occasion in 2008.

At all 18 Grand Prix this year, rookie Nelson Piquet lined up on the grid lower than the sister Renault. His seat is in doubt for next season.

"It has been a tough season obviously but I am learning a lot and improving a lot and discovering a lot of new things," the Brazilian said.

When asked if he was confident of staying in F1 next year, he answered: "I think I have a good chance."

Behind Alonso's perfect qualifying achievement, Red Bull's Mark Webber outpaced his team-mate David Coulthard 15 times on Saturday afternoons this year, while Toyota's Jarno Trulli dispensed with Timo Glock on 14 occasions.

Heikki Kovalainen's deficit to Lewis Hamilton was 13:5. At Ferrari, Felipe Massa saw off world champion Kimi Raikkonen 12:6.


Like Piquet, Honda's Rubens Barrichello is also fighting to retain his seat, but the Brazilian veteran actually outqualified team-mate Jenson Button on ten occasions in 2008.

"And I can tell you, he is damn fast," said Barrichello of Button, insisting that he 'deserves' a better Honda for 2009 following the poor cars of the past two seasons.

At Force India, Adrian Sutil and Giancarlo Fisichella are tied at 9:9, while Nick Heidfeld (BMW), Kazuki Nakajima (Williams) and Sebastien Bourdais (Toro Rosso) all managed to outqualify their team-mates only five times out of 18.

 

[Cavallino]

There could be Mclarens weak link, their presumption that Alonso will keep it clean.

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_4443190,00.html

Never assume Ronny. You assumed you had it in the bag last year...

 

[NathanE]

There could be Mclarens weak link, their presumption that Alonso will keep it clean.

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_4443190,00.html

Never assume Ronny. You assumed you had it in the bag last year...

Alonso said the same though. He said also that the Renault is bad at starts compared to the McLaren so he doesn't expect to be in a position to attack anyway. In fact he said he is more concerned about defending his position from Vettel behind him !

 

[FrankJH]

I dont think he will. Hes a driver. Out to win. 2nd place is for losers. You said it yourself even in free practice he drives to top the time sheets always. He doesnt let up.

In any individual race you are of course correct - but Hamilton has been stressing the bigger picture quite frequently - If LH is fighting for 4th or something late in the race, he might have to push it, if its 2nd/3rd LH will let ANYONE through , Im sure of it

Not only that, but while he has to consider everyone behind him (first corner or whatever), in one sense the SAFEST place for Alonso is out ahead of him, in nearly every situation there are few other cars/drivers that can keep up with LH for the position he needs for the WDC -ie top 5 - and thats even giving a place to Kovi

Alonso said the same though. He said also that the Renault is bad at starts compared to the McLaren so he doesn't expect to be in a position to attack anyway. In fact he said he is more concerned about defending his position from Vettel behind him !

Wherent Alonso and Kovi next to each other on the grid in the last race? Alonso initially got ahead, before Kovi overtook on the outside of turn ..2 was it, befre the "mismatched" tyres intervened?

looked pretty even that time - so could prove interesting with the ........compression of the grid for the first corner

 

[Cavallino]

In any individual race you are of course correct - but Hamilton has been stressing the bigger picture quite frequently - If LH is fighting for 4th or something late in the race, he might have to push it, if its 2nd/3rd LH will let ANYONE through , Im sure of it

Not only that, but while he has to consider everyone behind him (first corner or whatever), in one sense the SAFEST place for Alonso is out ahead of him, in nearly every situation there are few other cars/drivers that can keep up with LH for the position he needs for the WDC -ie top 5 - and thats even giving a place to Kovi

Yes I fully agree. But his driving historically has suggested otherwise. He will not yield no matter where he is on th grid. Be it P1 or P22.

 

[Cavallino]

Alonso said the same though. He said also that the Renault is bad at starts compared to the McLaren so he doesn't expect to be in a position to attack anyway. In fact he said he is more concerned about defending his position from Vettel behind him !

If Vetel is a threat to Alonso then hes sure as hell a threat to Hamilton.

Dont forget in practice and quals, the top 10 cars were seprate by mere tenths. In Q2 it was about .3 seconds that separate top 10. Its going to be MIGHTY MIGHT close.

ARGHHHH I CANT WAIT another 5 hours dammit

 

[FrankJH]

Yes I fully agree. But his driving historically has suggested otherwise. He will not yield no matter where he is on th grid. Be it P1 or P22.

No historical significance - this is completely different to every race LH has so far entered

(He isnt fighting his team mate for the Championship- one HUGE factor imo from last season)

and he is in a straight fight with one other person, in arguably the fastest car (esp if it rains heavily)

Also mind set is different at the beginning of the race as he isnt on pole, he has to start more carefully (rather than just consider who is right next to him)

If Vetel is a threat to Alonso then hes sure as hell a threat to Hamilton.

I dont agree with that in relation to the first few corners - while its happened before, the performance difference between the cars (given the two complete grid slots that seperate them) , I cant see Vetel getting ahead of LH straight away even with LH being off the racing line and Vetel being on it

Later in the race, yeah thats possible but I dont think its likely