2700x build - X470 Motherboard Choice

orbitalwalsh · 23 Nov 2018 at 15:12

timebomb26 said:
Is the ITX a mini? I'm looking at the mini-ITX and ATX versions and they are both showing the same price. Would the former be the better option then?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Gigabyte B450-I AORUS PRO WIFI (Socket AM4) Mini-ITX Motherboard= £115.99
1 x Gigabyte B450 AORUS PRO (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £109.99

Total: £237.08 (includes shipping: £11.10)

one is ITX and wifi and VRMs/design built around the z390 version and then other is ATX without wifi. Aorus do a wifi version but not for UK

not right or wrong for format to be honest. personally i think ATX needs to be replaced with mATX since new people arent using triple GPUs or 2 NVMe drives/ sata m.2 drives arent as common yet

subroutine · 3 Dec 2018 at 06:55

This motherboard I have, gaming 7 has two CPU power sockets, one 8 pin and another 4 pin very near it. Do both those have to be connected or only the 8 pin ?

orbitalwalsh · 3 Dec 2018 at 10:21

subroutine said:
This motherboard I have, gaming 7 has two CPU power sockets, one 8 pin and another 4 pin very near it. Do both those have to be connected or only the 8 pin ?

can just use the 8 pin . specially if running stock or slight overclock.

If you were going extreme overclock then you'd plug the 4 pin- this allows two things, more power to be supplied (technically should be using multi rail PSU) as well as cleaner delivery of the power and spread to VRMs.

If you've got the extra 4 pin then by all means plug it in but dont worry about it if you havent

tamzzy · 3 Dec 2018 at 10:40

subroutine · 3 Dec 2018 at 14:39

orbitalwalsh said:
can just use the 8 pin . specially if running stock or slight overclock.

If you were going extreme overclock then you'd plug the 4 pin- this allows two things, more power to be supplied (technically should be using multi rail PSU) as well as cleaner delivery of the power and spread to VRMs.

If you've got the extra 4 pin then by all means plug it in but dont worry about it if you havent

Thanks

subroutine · 7 Dec 2018 at 11:11

Would I be correct in thinking the RAM goes in slots DDR4_1 and DDR4_2 for two sticks ?

orbitalwalsh · 7 Dec 2018 at 12:44

subroutine said:
Would I be correct in thinking the RAM goes in slots DDR4_1 and DDR4_2 for two sticks ?

i cant remember the naming location as each vendor is different but as a rule ..... CPU socket > Dimm slot empty > Dimm slot populated> Empty > Populated > end of board

subroutine · 7 Dec 2018 at 13:04

That's what it would look like with the setup I posted. Thanks

subroutine · 17 Dec 2018 at 16:39

I have a problem with the rear green speaker output. It seems to be locked at 1% level or just no output. Setting line out, which is the blue socket to speaker out in the Realtek control panel makes them work when plugged into the blue socket. Any ideas on this ? Google indicates I'm not alone with this. Maybe @GIGA-Man could help ?

EDIT - This is intermittent because I've just done a reboot and the green socket is working again.

subroutine · 19 Dec 2018 at 13:57

I've figured out a CMOS reset using the switch at the rear of the motherboard will fix the sound for a random amount of time. @orbitalwalsh , What BIOS version are you running ? Also, have you got any issues with your system resuming from sleep ? Mine randomly refuses to wake and during that process it resets the BIOS settings.

orbitalwalsh · 19 Dec 2018 at 14:20

subroutine said:
I've figured out a CMOS reset using the switch at the rear of the motherboard will fix the sound for a random amount of time. @orbitalwalsh , What BIOS version are you running ? Also, have you got any issues with your system resuming from sleep ? Mine randomly refuses to wake and during that process it resets the BIOS settings.

Still running F3 and latest Windows version .

Found using older windows build would let system shut down .

But I also don't use sleep function as I've got young kids and switch PSU at back of the case

subroutine · 19 Dec 2018 at 14:36

@orbitalwalsh I'm running F6e, the latest but the backup BIOS is F3 so it might be worth booting from that an see how it runs. Did your RAM run xmp or did you have to play around with voltages etc ?

GIGA-Man · 19 Dec 2018 at 16:19

subroutine said:
I have a problem with the rear green speaker output. It seems to be locked at 1% level or just no output. Setting line out, which is the blue socket to speaker out in the Realtek control panel makes them work when plugged into the blue socket. Any ideas on this ? Google indicates I'm not alone with this. Maybe @GIGA-Man could help ?

EDIT - This is intermittent because I've just done a reboot and the green socket is working again.

That sound very strange especially as a reboot fixes the problem. If it continues let me know, do you have the google link we use a lot of those Realtek chips..

subroutine · 19 Dec 2018 at 18:55

GIGA-Man said:
That sound very strange especially as a reboot fixes the problem. If it continues let me know, do you have the google link we use a lot of those Realtek chips..

@GIGA-Man

http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/4677/x470-aorus-gaming-wifi-audio

http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/4211/gigabyte-x470-gaming-sound-issues

https://www.reddit.com/r/gigabytega...ntermittent_lowvolume_sound_issue_with_aorus/

That's just a few links. It's a CMOS reset that fixes it each time using the button at the rear of the MB. Seems to be randomly caused when the PC resumes from sleep, that process crashes the system and resets the BIOS settings. That sleep reset bug is also common if you google it, most say that it is related to the memory voltage being reset to 1.2v, hence the crash when resuming from sleep. I've disabled sleep now to see how it goes.

subroutine · 20 Dec 2018 at 14:35

subroutine said:
@GIGA-Man
I've disabled sleep now to see how it goes.

@GIGA-Man

PC booted this morning and the sound has stopped working on the main rear green socket so t's not just sleep related.

subroutine · 21 Dec 2018 at 19:35

In the BIOS, under NBIO->XRF Enhancement, PBO - If set to AUTO (default) -

All cores are around 4Ghz, Vcore 1.284v, temp running prime around 60c

but setting PBO to ENABLED all cores are around 4.2Ghz but Vcore jumps to 1.44v peak with prime 95, temp around 65c.

Does anyone know what the difference is between PBO auto and enabled ? Also, is that Vcore a bit high ? I can't really see any real world difference between those settings.

GIGA-Man · 2 Jan 2019 at 16:12

Hi Subroutine,

I am asking what the main change on that setting does, I have also reported the sound out issues too. Will get back to you ASAP but I agree the core voltage does seem high.
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subroutine · 3 Jan 2019 at 11:04

GIGA-Man said:
Hi Subroutine,

I am asking what the main change on that setting does, I have also reported the sound out issues too. Will get back to you ASAP but I agree the core voltage does seem high.
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Thank You. There's no way to get this system to resume from sleep and I've tried many setting in the BIOS including LLC @ Turbo to see if it was VDroop . That's not so much of an issue though but windows sleep is useful.

subroutine · 8 Jan 2019 at 14:34

@GIGA-Man BIOS F6e was pulled from the support site after I updated the BIOS on my motherboard and replaced with F6, which I updated to. Now F6 has been removed with no explanation at all just like f6e. Is there an issue with F6 ?

GIGA-Man · 17 Jan 2019 at 08:43

I have been told there was a random issue with S3 Wake up sate, the new BIOS will be live very soon.